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    Call me debby downer, but I'm actually very happy that FFXIV didnt win anything in the awards. Despite the awards really not meaning anything besides technically GOTY and everything is just a popularity circle jerk validation for sweaty nerds wanting to rub and flex on other sweaty nerds over their "game".

    Anything to not give this community an inch of praise or validation on both the players and the developers. I rather care on focusing on the devs hopefully start listening to player feedback and strive to make the game better and for the community to stop acting like complete dunderheads and quit with the myriad of toxicity and drama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Cyberpunk is good now but no way would I have given it the award. . . They had to do what they did because they messed it up, and they did charge for it (in a sense) via the phantom liberty expansion. No Mans Sky also messed up but they've been doing it longer and for free.

    I wouldn't have felt wrong if FFXIV earned it, but I felt like "nah man" for cyberpunk. They redeemed themselves now, that's good, but you need to now continue to do great stuff to get an award.

    Shouldn't do bad, fix bad, and then be told you did great lol.
    Oh hey there FFXIV 2.0 and the same given praise happened. Although I'm going to be real with you, the fact that the devs go out of their way to admit colossal screw ups and dedicate their time to fix the game is no small feat nor should we take that lightly. Same thing happened with No Man's Sky and while we can be lol cynical about this shit, a W is still a W at the end of the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Oh hey there FFXIV 2.0 and the same given praise happened. Although I'm going to be real with you, the fact that the devs go out of their way to admit colossal screw ups and dedicate their time to fix the game is no small feat nor should we take that lightly. Same thing happened with No Man's Sky and while we can be lol cynical about this shit, a W is still a W at the end of the day.
    Eh and yes lol. Eh to the fact that I still believe the award is going beyond just fixing what was wrong, and not making it wrong so you could then fix it and be told good job. Shouldn't be like that in the first place and we shouldn't have awards for knowingly messing up. Like if you had done it right in the first place you wouldn't have been eligible for the award cause you'd be done. Then also the other games mentioned I believe fixed what was wrong, but due to time being out, have continued to work on it- making them more interesting for the award than CP2077.

    That said I do believe it's a pretty good game now and in that way, yeah there is a win in the story. And while I don't have the same faith I had before the release I do at least feel a redemption and will more cautiously but excitedly await their next game.

    Worst game company in the world? No. Definitely not. Game good now? Yeah I would definitely say so, worth getting if you haven't already. Best continuing game? I wouldn't say that... If they continue to update it now that they fixed it? Yeah sure, but they need more time to develop the track record now that they have only recently passed where it should have been at release.

    Releasing more patches (where they make sense, perhaps final touches on ideas lost to the rush to release the game) and another great dlc like phantom liberty would be a top contender. For context I wouldn't have given such an award to ARR at release either. That was fixing their own mistakes. Though I think both stories are good they didn't abandon their work, and give the redemption arc.
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    What even is an "ongoing" game? It seems to be the place where they lump MMOs, live service games, or games that actively get updates and new content on a regular basis -- that is, "ongoing" rather than arriving at a "concluded" state. Does that really describe Cyberpunk? Why? Because the problems with the initial release got patched, and they made a DLC chapter? Like, FFXVI just released DLC, is that an "ongoing" game now? Was Baldur's Gate 3 "ongoing" all that time it was in Early Access and getting periodically updated? Seems like if there is ever a patch or a change of some kind, you can call anything "ongoing."

    Seems like a category that needs to be defined better. Or maybe they didn't want to literally have a "Best MMO" category because realistically there are never too many of those at any given time so it would just be the same contenders year after year..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    What even is an "ongoing" game? It seems to be the place where they lump MMOs, live service games, or games that actively get updates and new content on a regular basis -- that is, "ongoing" rather than arriving at a "concluded" state. Does that really describe Cyberpunk? Why? Because the problems with the initial release got patched, and they made a DLC chapter? Like, FFXVI just released DLC, is that an "ongoing" game now? Was Baldur's Gate 3 "ongoing" all that time it was in Early Access and getting periodically updated? Seems like if there is ever a patch or a change of some kind, you can call anything "ongoing."

    Seems like a category that needs to be defined better. Or maybe they didn't want to literally have a "Best MMO" category because realistically there are never too many of those at any given time so it would just be the same contenders year after year..?
    Ongoing game is literally just "game people still play after its lifespan of a year". MMOs dont have a category because its literally not a popular category with many games in it. Its like having an RTS award category to see which version of Total War wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    Ongoing game is literally just "game people still play after its lifespan of a year". MMOs dont have a category because its literally not a popular category with many games in it. Its like having an RTS award category to see which version of Total War wins.
    Total war is RTT, not RTS. It's kind of why the award is for the best strategy these days so it covers RTS, RTT, Grand Strategy, 4X, Wargames etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    Ongoing game is literally just "game people still play after its lifespan of a year".
    Okay, so that's every single video game ever made, then? The whole category is just "Games That Came Out Before This Year"? Just give the award to Skyrim every single year, I guess.
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    xiv can win best ongoing game when it actually bothers releasing something for me to do every month that i pay for my sub
    not even asking for much just cycle a moogle tomestone event or maybe go nuts with unreals and actually idk cycle that stuff monthly instead of waiting for le specific patch date. imagine, knowing you're about to put your players through like... a 6 month content drought, and instead of implementing new measures to make the game palatable during that time like removing lockouts or doing away with caps or accelerating the rate of events, etc. you just do nothing. and then when people quit you're like "uhm ackshually it's a good thing that your fc's dead and your queues take longer to pop xd we're just respecting your time haha lmao." and then you release some ugly 20 dollar sweater in the cash shop and make the surprised pikachu face when you don't win any awards.

    NAHHHH this game didn't deserve anything this time around. post-ew has been terrible.
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    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
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    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    Okay, so that's every single video game ever made, then? The whole category is just "Games That Came Out Before This Year"? Just give the award to Skyrim every single year, I guess.
    Its basically a category for any game that either has a resurgence or is an on-going multiplayer game. It literally could be an MMO vs a Shooter vs a MOBA vs a single player game that just got fixed up to be usable vs a sports game.
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    Hahaha, looks like some of your loyal fans found you on the forums.
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    The Legends of the Titanmen lives on, a shining example of the power of compassion and the ability of people to make a difference in the world. A reminder that even in the darkest of times, there is always hope, as long as there are heroes like the Titanmen who dare to do good deeds in Eorzea.

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