Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[cain8602]

Leveling an alt on Balmung. Ran WHM for Cutter's Cry. Things started out normally…

…but then group cohesion fell apart.

Usually when I end up running Cutter's, we all just book it to the sinkhole. Nobody followed me into the sinkhole, which I thought was odd. Having no idea what to do, I book it to the boss so everyone could get the free teleport.

Apparently, that wasn't appreciated because the RPR started sassing me, but we made it through.

Tank pulled two half rooms, so I was in full-heal-or-the-tank-will-die mode, but RPR got on my case again spamming 'use Esuna', which I couldn't use without getting the tank killed.

Needless to say, I was in Panic Mode at the Chimera. Beat it by the skin of our teeth. Didn't help that judgemental RPR kept standing in every single AoE. They and the tank left the exact second the fight ended, which I think might be worse that telling me that I sucked in chat. At least the SAM was nice enough to salute…

So that was fun… /playdead

[Tiramu]

Leveling an alt on Balmung. Ran WHM for Cutter's Cry. Things started out normally…

…but then group cohesion fell apart.

Usually when I end up running Cutter's, we all just book it to the sinkhole. Nobody followed me into the sinkhole, which I thought was odd. Having no idea what to do, I book it to the boss so everyone could get the free teleport.

Apparently, that wasn't appreciated because the RPR started sassing me, but we made it through.

Which is exactly what you should have done. Unless you're very new to the game, everyone knows that those 2 rooms are skipped. It happens, usually because someone engaged something, it's no big deal though. I'd have told the RPR, politely, to stop being a baby. It was their error, not yours.

Tank pulled two half rooms, so I was in full-heal-or-the-tank-will-die mode, but RPR got on my case again spamming 'use Esuna', which I couldn't use without getting the tank killed.

Sounds like the RPR maybe didn't know the content well.

Needless to say, I was in Panic Mode at the Chimera. Beat it by the skin of our teeth. Didn't help that judgemental RPR kept standing in every single AoE. They and the tank left the exact second the fight ended, which I think might be worse that telling me that I sucked in chat. At least the SAM was nice enough to salute…

So that was fun… /playdead

I love when people give sass in cutters cry and then eat everything and/or die to Chimera. Its one of those dungeons that can put people to the test after they've given mouth. Had one of those a little while back when levelling GNB - was my 3rd time playing the job which I said in chat. A few wipes and quite a few deaths which the healer and one of the DPS tried to put on me. While I was new to GNB, and probably not perfect, I could tell that something more was off. They were just eating everything, and I was having to kitchen sink constantly.

I ended up solo'ing Chimera from 3/4 health and they left promptly. I wouldn't take it as them shading you, or care if they did. I'd say they know damned well that they were the problem so are getting out quick. And if not, well, they're deluded and not your problem.

[TabrisOmbrelame]

Unless you're very new to the game, everyone knows that those 2 rooms are skipped.

This is true, but this also mean that the dungeon layout actually sucks and was poorly done. Under normal circonstances, you shouldn't be able to skip, but of course in Cutter's Cry you can do it because of how it is made. I think that Cutter's Cry, Dzemael and Aurum Vale would really beneficiate from a full revamp like some dungeon got.

Since we had some rework on bosses, if they can do it on every ARR dungeon that actually need it, it would be way better. For exemple, you can see a huge difference on bosses mecanics in the three first dungeon of the game. Try compare Sastasha/Tam-tara with Copperbell and you'll see that Copperbell's bosses are actually way more fun to do than any other boss before that who are basically training dummy with nothing to do at all (Or almost for the final boss of Tam-tara but changing target may not count). Of course the difficulty isn't high at this level, but the gap in term of mecanics alone is actually huge there.

[Kikoten]

Had a tank in our alliance raid--Labyrinth of the Ancients, and she was in our party. Some of my party mates had some real issues with her, and I could see why. She was decked out in level 90 gear, and she acted like she didn't know the first thing about tanking. She was not pulling aggro, she failed to tank the dragon away from the middle of the explodey skeleton spot, causing the whole raid to nearly wipe, and failed to yield the last boss's one-shot move, where you have to all run to the platforms to raise the shield wall.

If that person is here, reading this, and they know who they are, this is my message to them: You want monsters to hit you. Please, make monsters hit you. Piss the monsters off to the point where they want to kill you and only you. That is called tanking. Try it sometime.

[Hausti]

...she failed to tank the dragon away from the middle of the explodey skeleton spot, causing the whole raid to nearly wipe...

I really miss those days when that was the normal way of tanking him. But honestly its only a problem now if the healers are half asleep.

[Jettinson]

I really miss those days when that was the normal way of tanking him. But honestly its only a problem now if the healers are half asleep.

The best way to judge if healers are asleep is seeing how the 1st pull is handled since it is almost guaranteed some poor player is going to get clipped by the breath, tail or eyes

[Asari5]

its not really about the healers. even if the boss is tanked in the middle there is enough time to kill them all with aoe... if the dps jobs arent asleep xD.
and tbh i think its so much more comfortable in the middle. i dont get all these people who are yelling around because of that.

[ChrysOCE]

Which is exactly what you should have done. Unless you're very new to the game, everyone knows that those 2 rooms are skipped. It happens, usually because someone engaged something, it's no big deal though. I'd have told the RPR, politely, to stop being a baby. It was their error, not yours.

Does everyone know that? It doesn't sound like there was there any actual communication. Like "hey, skip everything and run to portal. If you die, just zone into boss room"?

[Tiramu]

Does everyone know that? It doesn't sound like there was there any actual communication. Like "hey, skip everything and run to portal. If you die, just zone into boss room"?

How many times have you ran cutters cry? How many times have your groups not skipped it?

Ive ran it hundreds of times and can count on half a hand the number of groups where theyve fought the mobs in there.

Id say its pretty safe to assume most players who arent newbies know its skipped, and if a group wants to fight them, they should raise it. Not sure why anyone would want to, but still.

[Tiramu]

This is true, but this also mean that the dungeon layout actually sucks and was poorly done. Under normal circonstances, you shouldn't be able to skip, but of course in Cutter's Cry you can do it because of how it is made. I think that Cutter's Cry, Dzemael and Aurum Vale would really beneficiate from a full revamp like some dungeon got.

Since we had some rework on bosses, if they can do it on every ARR dungeon that actually need it, it would be way better. For exemple, you can see a huge difference on bosses mecanics in the three first dungeon of the game. Try compare Sastasha/Tam-tara with Copperbell and you'll see that Copperbell's bosses are actually way more fun to do than any other boss before that who are basically training dummy with nothing to do at all (Or almost for the final boss of Tam-tara but changing target may not count). Of course the difficulty isn't high at this level, but the gap in term of mecanics alone is actually huge there.

Perhaps so. I think this goes for many ARR dungeons though. They feel a bit jank.

I'd like more stuff like Aurum Vale and Wanderers Palace where there is environmental stuff to avoid, and you have to stealth your way past certain enemies or packs though.