Would you rather healers get more complex healing kits or more complex DPS kits?

[Boblawblah]

Serious question from a newbie healer: What would healing look like if they removed like 90% of oGCD heals? idk, just a shower thought I had. It seems like the more I'm leveling healers, the more oGCD heals i'm getting. That's an awful lot of 'holy shoot' buttons.

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Serious question from a newbie healer: What would healing look like if they removed like 90% of oGCD heals? idk, just a shower thought I had. It seems like the more I'm leveling healers, the more oGCD heals i'm getting. That's an awful lot of 'holy shoot' buttons.

Why do you consider ogcds "holy shoot" buttons?

[TheDustyOne]

Serious question from a newbie healer: What would healing look like if they removed like 90% of oGCD heals? idk, just a shower thought I had. It seems like the more I'm leveling healers, the more oGCD heals i'm getting. That's an awful lot of 'holy shoot' buttons.

One thing you eventually learn as a healer is that it's the opposite of what you think; your GCD heals are the 'holy shoot' buttons while your oGCD buttons become your first priority.

The big reasons for this; they're free*, they don't take any time away from your damage abilities, they cost no MP, and sitting on them for long periods is a lost use of them. GCD heals cost MP and typically cost damage uptime, so as you gain more oGCDs, the lower down the chain of priority they go.

This is of course fight dependent, Savage may expect you to put some big shields up for raidwides that you may not be able to get with just oGCDs.

*A large chunk of SCH oGCDs cost Aetherflow, a resource that can also be used on Energy Drain, but the priority is still Aetherflow heals over GCD heals.

[Boblawblah]

Okay, they're not holy shoot buttons, what would happen if you removed most of them?

[Aravell]

Okay, they're not holy shoot buttons, what would happen if you removed most of them?

If they remove OGCD buttons and do nothing else? Most of the heal check mechanics in ShB and EW content would become straight up impossible to clear, that's about all it would change.

[Renathras]

Serious question from a newbie healer: What would healing look like if they removed like 90% of oGCD heals? idk, just a shower thought I had. It seems like the more I'm leveling healers, the more oGCD heals i'm getting. That's an awful lot of 'holy shoot' buttons.

Honestly? Depends on how they did it.

Stuff like Afflatus Solace/Rapture already kind of work like "if oGCDs were GCDs". So does WHM/SCH/AST heals in PvP. But going the other way around?

...honestly not much different in the end. Where a SCH uses Indom now, they'd use Emergency Tactics + Succor. SGE using Ixochole would be replaced by a hardcast Prognosis. It would mainly break up the GCD Glare/Broil/Malific/Dosis spam by filling those GCDs with GCD heals. Most (not all, but most) oGCD heals have a GCD equivalent or near-enough equivalent, so players would use those instead.

Resource management would shift from oGCD timers/charges to MP, and optimization shift from casting as few GCD heals as possible to a balance of using MP efficient heals (to not OOM) against the needs of healing (faster, bigger heals cost more MP than slower and smaller heals) with high end optimization trying to balance using MP inefficient big heals so they can eek out more damage in the gaps they've created by doing so, while knowing when to use more efficient heals to prevent OOMing.

Why do you consider ogcds "holy shoot" buttons?

To be fair, they are in most MMOs and similar games. I'd wager most FFXIV players (healers and DPSers and tanks alike) had to get used to the fact "thing with CD" isn't a panic button.

[ChrysOCE]

If they remove OGCD buttons and do nothing else? Most of the heal check mechanics in ShB and EW content would become straight up impossible to clear, that's about all it would change.

Would they though? Are you meaning across the board or in very specific high level fights?

[SargeTheSeagull]

Would they though? Are you meaning across the board or in very specific high level fights?

70% of heal/mit check in ex/savage/ult would literally not be possible if all ogcd heals were removed. (Unless you had insanely specific party comps and insane coordination). That said, if they converted most ogcd heals to GCD’s that’s another (and frankly quite interesting) question.

[Rithy255]

I'm always one who thinks Content and game design should just focus on the present... Old content seems to get worse the older it is with how this game works.
But saying that couldn't they just change the heal checks... I mean yeah I know it ruins the integrity of the fight and all but it's not like older fights are like how you played them when they first came out anyway.

It's more dependent on *how much* they remove as well and what abilities they remove, obviously this would require a actual look into but Idk... I think a Big company like SE could handle trying to fix the overwhelming un-needed healing kits if they tried.

[IDontPetLalas]

I'm always one who thinks Content and game design should just focus on the present... Old content seems to get worse the older it is with how this game works.
But saying that couldn't they just change the heal checks... I mean yeah I know it ruins the integrity of the fight and all but it's not like older fights are like how you played them when they first came out anyway.

It's more dependent on *how much* they remove as well and what abilities they remove, obviously this would require a actual look into but Idk... I think a Big company like SE could handle trying to fix the overwhelming un-needed healing kits if they tried.

Sure, let's pass that onto their healer designer to take a look at..oh wait...Yes, the healer designer that they have never hired in the past 10 year- that one?

Please, forgive me if I sound somewhat skeptical (it's not directed at you), I actually agree with you- however at the speed at which Square moves, I wouldn't expect these changes for quite a while -IF they recognized that they were needed.