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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonoki View Post
    I think the problem with this is that it really doesn't prove anything at all. It's a test server which will be deleted later on. Therefore, everyone visiting and checking it out aren't exactly taking the game seriously in any meaningful degree aside vibing. It's a bunch of people having careless fun with no rhyme nor reason behind their antics. Nobody in their right mind is going onto the test server behaving like this is their new permanent stay. So, it's only natural that things on the surface are seemingly fine.

    Never forget how everyone thought cross data-center visits was a good idea but didn't once consider the after effects that it inevitably caused. You always need to think outside the box on what could possibly go wrong.
    I agree it doesn't prove anything but on the other hand, I've been in enough stress tests and beta tests in the past to know that they have a tendency to bring out the worst in many players because it's not the "real" game so they think they're free from any sort of penalties for poor behavior.

    So far, it doesn't seem any different from the live servers other than a much greater use of the auto-translate dictionary in chat channels. It's something that doesn't get used much on the NA worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn View Post
    Making a simple suggestion is ruining the game. Alrighty then.

    My view of it is that FFXIV is very strong in having multiple communities that all like different things about the game. Making it into a mega server would help all the communities grow since they could now play with similar communities from different regions.

    We're in a general forum. If you disagree with my take you can do so but there's 0 harm in making a suggestion and seeing if anyone else is interested in the same or not.
    Pushing divergent communities together rarely makes for a better experience.

    I can remember playing WoW when there was no cross-realm content other than battlegrounds. If you want to do dungeons or raids, you got to know the other players on your realm and started making friends. That is what formed the communities.

    Once cross-realm activity started being added, it became more difficult to get to know other players because chances were good you'd see them once or never again. For all you were doing multi-player content, in a lot of ways you felt alone because you rarely knew who you were playing with. Most of the friends I was playing with in WoD and Legion were friends I had made before the introduction of cross-realm Group Finder for raiding and in many cases even going back before Dungeon Finder was added.

    The community was isolated so all we had was each other to get content cleared. It paid to get to know the others and to help them get better as players.

    Once cross-realm became standard, everyone became disposable. They were a handy tool of the moment to clear content and that's it. If they weren't living up to your standards, kick them from the group and replace them with a different random player who might do better.

    The mega servers don't help communities grow. They create flash mobs instead. Everyone rushes together for a few moments because they happened to be in the same place with the same goal then separate out when it's time for everyone to go their own way. Certainly that can be appealing to some players but it's not going to appeal to everyone.

    More does not always make for a better experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    I think its really telling how some people in this thread really express the idea that an MMO community should be limiting rather than be expanding. Its as if they're not confident in their own little communities somehow


    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    You know what's ruining this game? Too many servers. Again there's a tech reason due to this game's server infrastructure but imagine if they worked on them. No more need to DC travel to get to certain groups or have better queues for content, you can also interact and hang out with other people from other parts of the world and make the auto-translate feature that so many people have forgotten actually useful.

    This is the ideal in a <ahem> A MASSIVELY MULTIPLAER ONLINE ROLE PLAYING GAME.
    You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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    I have always thought that it would be best to cross DC all the servers except the JP servers. Solves both problems at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    I have always thought that it would be best to cross DC all the servers except the JP servers. Solves both problems at the same time.
    I have thought this too, but then you know there will always be someone who will be upset they can't cross over to JP servers.

    Also, for a maybe tiny suggestion, what if they trial ran it like these servers now? Could leave it up for a bit and see if there would be any difficulty in bringing regions together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    I have always thought that it would be best to cross DC all the servers except the JP servers. Solves both problems at the same time.
    I think what you meant is, it'll solve the "problem" that communities still exist in this game and kill them off for good.

    What a fun game when everyone you see you know you'll never see again, so exciting.

    I'm glad the devs don't read the forums ngl, yall would just take this game and burn it to the ground.

    Think about the consequences this would have on communities amongst other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I think what you meant is, it'll solve the "problem" that communities still exist in this game and kill them off for good.
    Local communities still exist despite world visit and DC travel (although world visit did affect them since just before Shadowbringers).

    I agree that mega servers would be what would ruin that but that is a different thing than DC travel, provided they make it undesirable to travel to the same location 100% of the time such as for raid PFs, but Yoshi-P mentioned having a plan for that anyway.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I think what you meant is, it'll solve the "problem" that communities still exist in this game and kill them off for good.

    What a fun game when everyone you see you know you'll never see again, so exciting.

    I'm glad the devs don't read the forums ngl, yall would just take this game and burn it to the ground.

    Think about the consequences this would have on communities amongst other things.
    I for one prefer disposable parties. I am an autistic introvert, if I can go in, do a duty finder run, and never have to see the people again unless I want to, [in which case I ask to friend them] it's a good thing.

    Edit to add: Not everyone plays this game the same way. Many people don't want to make a bunch of friends just to be able to complete the MSQ [as XI once forced you to do prior to Trusts becoming a thing]. There is a reason I did not play WoW in its heyday, [there are reasons I don't now either but that is a different matter.] and a large portion of that was being forced to interact with the same people every day even if I didn't want to just to complete the story.
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    I think we are separated enough..., thinking of that the Korean and Chinese version of the game and it's players are inaccessible for us. Why are we not allowed to pat Chinese or Korean lalafells!? ò.ó

    So I still think, that we should be able to at least connect with all players from the global game version. This region lock is really sad. Of course there are differences but why shouldn't an MMO be a place where we can come together and find and fokus on our similarities and maybe can come closer? :3
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    the Korean and Chinese version of the game and it's players are inaccessible for us. Why are we not allowed to pat Chinese or Korean lalafells!? ò.ó
    That has a lot to do with China wanting to regulate what is and isn't in their version of the game and the ways in which they can interact with foreigners.

    For Korea, I think they are supposed to have very limited playtimes so their version of the game has to have restricted playtime (but I think their players have ways of getting around it).
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

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