You're a Disgrace

[sagacious]

It seems the only solution is to get rid of the PC version of FFXIV and just have it on consoles. At least then it's harder to cheat.

that's not a solution that would mean the death of the game .. nobody will cheat because no one will play.

[Nabril]

It seems the only solution is to get rid of the PC version of FFXIV and just have it on consoles. At least then it's harder to cheat.

Sure... Just ask SE to agree to forget all about improving the graphics that are scheduled for next year, increasing the furniture item limit in housing which is also scheduled for next year, oh... and while they're at it, they can code in to enforce all furniture placement properties to prevent people from creatively placing furniture. Yes, there's great potential here to make this game stagnant and very boring. World of Warcraft did that and look where it is now.

Think the PS4&5 can support this game all by themselves? Think us PC users would just buy this game for PlayStation and forget all about the improved graphics that were coming? Not when Starfield just came out.

[Elkanah]

I mean we did have Eli Blue a couple of weeks ago, but before that there wasn't anything too memorable? Like almost everyone that cheats in PvP tries to be stealthy about it.

When people like Bill Murray speed hacked in rival wings in perhaps the most obvious way possible people shamed it. People talked about it. He literally had to transfer servers and change his name multiple times in an attempt to get away from it even though I don't think SE ever did anything.

This is less about SE and more about the community. I don't want to start a witch hunt, because those get out of control, but when someone is openly committing the act in front of everyone possible, not even attempting to hide it, then the community should at least hold that person accountable within reason.

I want to remind you that regardless if they change their character name, as long as you have the ID number found in their profile ID (which anyone can get from the lodestone), it won't matter how much time has passed unless the character is deleted permanently. That's how some of us keep track of users to avoid with a save tab folder full of ffxiv players who are incredibly toxic, or has a bad reputation.

[Jojoya]

Sure... Just ask SE to agree to forget all about improving the graphics that are scheduled for next year, increasing the furniture item limit in housing which is also scheduled for next year, oh... and while they're at it, they can code in to enforce all furniture placement properties to prevent people from creatively placing furniture. Yes, there's great potential here to make this game stagnant and very boring. World of Warcraft did that and look where it is now.

Think the PS4&5 can support this game all by themselves? Think us PC users would just buy this game for PlayStation and forget all about the improved graphics that were coming? Not when Starfield just came out.

You're exaggerating a bit here and forgetting one other small detail.

If PS4/5 couldn't support the graphics updates, the updates wouldn't be happening. They aren't happening just for the sake of PC players.

Xbox beta is starting early next year, probably just after 6.55 is released. Most PC gamers are also going to have either PS or Xbox because there are a lot of titles that don't get released on PC. While we don't have all the details yet, I suspect that PC players will be able to attach Xbox licenses to their current accounts just as PS can be attached (and vice versa).

I doubt SE would pull the plug on PC support at this point just to solve the mod problem but I also don't think the game would be killed if they did so. We don't know how many players are using mods or how many of those players feel mods are mandatory to enjoying the game.

The most they might do is think twice before releasing future multi-player titles to PC if they intend cross-platform play. Single player titles aren't a problem - there's no player interaction to be affected by use of mods. They might choose to segregate PC players from console players like many other games do if they want to release multi-player titles on PC.

[RitsukoSonoda]

You're exaggerating a bit here and forgetting one other small detail.

If PS4/5 couldn't support the graphics updates, the updates wouldn't be happening. They aren't happening just for the sake of PC players.

Xbox beta is starting early next year, probably just after 6.55 is released. Most PC gamers are also going to have either PS or Xbox because there are a lot of titles that don't get released on PC. While we don't have all the details yet, I suspect that PC players will be able to attach Xbox licenses to their current accounts just as PS can be attached (and vice versa).

I doubt SE would pull the plug on PC support at this point just to solve the mod problem but I also don't think the game would be killed if they did so. We don't know how many players are using mods or how many of those players feel mods are mandatory to enjoying the game.

The most they might do is think twice before releasing future multi-player titles to PC if they intend cross-platform play. Single player titles aren't a problem - there's no player interaction to be affected by use of mods. They might choose to segregate PC players from console players like many other games do if they want to release multi-player titles on PC.

IMO Segregation or dropping PC support on future multiplayer titles from SE isn't likely to happen. Full cross platform play is one of those hot buttons that generate more sales. If anything better measures would be implemented from the beginning to curb cheating by the small amount of problematic PC users. However those measures would have to hammer modding in general just to stand a chance at being effective.

Though it is funny in a few cases of a dev implementing full cross platform play. I recall a couple FPS games that did it because ppl wanted it then had all the console players complaining about losing to PC players because KB+ Mouse is superior to a controller on that type of game. There was also another that had ppl blaming players on Nintendo Switch for making it take longer for matches to start.

[Nabril]

You're exaggerating a bit here and forgetting one other small detail.

If PS4/5 couldn't support the graphics updates, the updates wouldn't be happening. They aren't happening just for the sake of PC players.

Xbox beta is starting early next year, probably just after 6.55 is released. Most PC gamers are also going to have either PS or Xbox because there are a lot of titles that don't get released on PC. While we don't have all the details yet, I suspect that PC players will be able to attach Xbox licenses to their current accounts just as PS can be attached (and vice versa).

I doubt SE would pull the plug on PC support at this point just to solve the mod problem but I also don't think the game would be killed if they did so. We don't know how many players are using mods or how many of those players feel mods are mandatory to enjoying the game.

The most they might do is think twice before releasing future multi-player titles to PC if they intend cross-platform play. Single player titles aren't a problem - there's no player interaction to be affected by use of mods. They might choose to segregate PC players from console players like many other games do if they want to release multi-player titles on PC.

I know for a fact that the PS4 can't support it. It might be able to meet the minimum requirements barely, but it doesn't have a chance of meeting the recommended settings. The PS4 won't be able to take full advantage of the graphics updates. A quick search will tell you that much. People are predicting the PS4 support to die off soon after the next expansion. Look up the CPU and the GPU equivalent for the PS4. It's not enough. So unless you have a PS5, you're on borrowed time. Without the PC users, this game dies.

In fact, it's been said for years that the only reason we have such low item limits in houses was because of the PS4 limitations. I'm glad to see that it's finally changing. Item limits are being increased despite the PS4 limits. PCs can be upgraded and people can move up to the PS5.

So no, I'm not forgetting anything. PS4 will not last long. PS5 isn't capable of supplying the customer base required to keep this game going. You need the PC users.

Edit: The XBOX version that this is coming out on has the power to run it just fine with the new graphics update. It is stronger than the PS4. Pretty much everything is now. It's 10 years old! It's time to say goodbye.

[NekoMataMata]

I want to remind you that regardless if they change their character name, as long as you have the ID number found in their profile ID (which anyone can get from the lodestone), it won't matter how much time has passed unless the character is deleted permanently. That's how some of us keep track of users to avoid with a save tab folder full of ffxiv players who are incredibly toxic, or has a bad reputation.

I used the word "attempted" for a reason. Trust me, people have been keeping track of Bill Murray after the incident. The description of that youtube video should have any name updates. It's not likely to stop them, but it'll be there.