MrHappy's FFXI Event - March of Vana'diel

[Vyrerus]

I really wish they'd do something about the install and launcher, and possibly a joint sub with FFXIV. I got it and played it a bit a year or so ago, and I enjoyed it...but not for the price of another full sub. Granted, Happy's promotion would solve the big problem I had - most of the people weren't interested in playing or leveling with a new player. I got a lot of - polite, but still - "Come back and talk to us once you're max level and have a relic set and we'll play with you" kinds of talk or "just level with Trusts, no one plays with other players for leveling anymore" stuff.

...but that aside, I tried Horizon for a few days. Playing with other people was nice, but good god, they have the installer STREAMLINED compared to the Play Online insanity (granted, I do like the PO launcher music still, but that's about it). Controller support was native and didn't require futzing with, and the entire experience was just so smooth. FFXI was designed in the early 00s when pretty much everyone playing MMOs were nerd computer techs or kids with too much time on their hands, meaning the installation and launcher stuff was just par for the course. While I can do it just fine today (I...kinda was one of those kids back then, too, lol), it's just OBNOXIOUS. It's like "Why are we still in the late 90s here?" dealing with it.

What I don't get is, if Horizon can do what it can with the launcher and controller support, uh...why can't FFXI? Or why hasn't it? "legacy code" stuff isn't really an excuse since they should have that on the backend and the installation and launcher stuff should be easy to adapt to the times.

Man, when Horizon first came out there was like no way to get a controller to work with it. I tried it out, just because I was interested.

Then came the news that they basically were making THF and daggers OP and all of the team putting it out there's favorite jobs better. While bludgeoning staple jobs from back in the day with major or minor nerfs. Like they made Wasp Sting stronger than Tachi: Enpi lol

Like sure, it was easy to setup, but once you get through the setup for retail, you won't have to do it again (and if you, for some reason, do then you know how). And then, you won't have to worry about some weird devs taking money from that Ninja streamer banning you for complaining about their server. (Which they themselves exploit and cheat on)

[Renathras]

Man, when Horizon first came out there was like no way to get a controller to work with it. I tried it out, just because I was interested.

Then came the news that they basically were making THF and daggers OP and all of the team putting it out there's favorite jobs better. While bludgeoning staple jobs from back in the day with major or minor nerfs. Like they made Wasp Sting stronger than Tachi: Enpi lol

Like sure, it was easy to setup, but once you get through the setup for retail, you won't have to do it again (and if you, for some reason, do then you know how). And then, you won't have to worry about some weird devs taking money from that Ninja streamer banning you for complaining about their server. (Which they themselves exploit and cheat on)

Oh, don't get me wrong, that kinda thing is why I don't play on private servers. I said it was fun enough, but I didn't keep playing for exactly the reasons that the devs seemed a bit...uh...yeah. That and private servers can be shut down at any time, so you could put ours/days/months into a character, just for it to go poof. Which doesn't sound very fun to me and kind of defeats the point of an MMO with a persistent world.

I was more mentioning it for the installation and launcher stuff, since there's 0 reason Square can't do that themselves, and if they did, it would probably entice far more people to pick up the game.

[Volgia]

If we were gonna get another crossover with another Square Enix game I would have rather it be Chrono Trigger or something, but well, I haven't played 11 to any meaningful extent so it might be fun.