did the devs ever played the MSQ they did?

[Musashidon]

the game has a certain amount of quests to make per expansion/patch that includes the main story and a world to build so yes we are going to do a lot of quests some people may find dumb if you dont like them skip the dialogue they honestly dont take all that long.

[WantlessYoYo]

its start to be unbearable and close to non playable ion 6.0 . we literally stopping wars and the apocalypse, but we then need to ones more HELP TO MOVE BOXES or GO SERVE DRINKS as apparently we need to help as well. WTF?

I remember having this complain ON THE EXACT SAME CUTSCENE as well and some people told me how, despite being the WOL, low to no people ACTUALLY know how YOU look
Like, they know all you've done and all your reputation but it's not until a feat of strenght or until someone else with bigger reputation says it people acknowledge, and it's not like "we" tend to brag about it

When we arrive to Sharlayan despite all our titles the person questioning us just goes "lol k/lol who", on the scene you mention on Thavnir the guy again, doesn't know you, so for him you're just another person in aid while he's as well, that's why he goes "look just help me do this REAL QUICK BECAUSE WE TOO ARE MESSED UP then i'll answer you"

And this point is strongly advertised as well on the latest custom deliveries, where is not til Margrat at the very end of the questline everyone recognizes and thanks you, but before that everyone thought of you as just another guy

[PercibelTheren]

Its why I appreciate quests like "In from the Cold" the arguably most controversial EW MSQ quest due to its difficulty (its really not, its very simple) but what I loved about it was the bit of challenge and sense of urgency that helped highlight that moment in the story that really showed how good these devs could make msq quests.

Saying that quest is controversial for its difficulty is not really accurate. There are quite a few people, myself included, who don't dislike the difficulty. I just dislike the implementation. XIV is not suited to playing like a stealth game. The aggro ranges were horrendously inconsistent and the invisible walls were stupid. I managed to get through it on my first try with plenty of time to spare, doesn't mean I didn't hate every second of it.

[SannaR]

The WoL is a kind considerate soul that is willing to help others.

Sometimes that help means smashing bad guys.

They're also an intelligence agent in training that has learned that sometimes doing manual labor will yield information desired.

Yes, the developers have played the story they created. It could be that story they created doesn't match the story you expect to play.

I think it's just their dislike in how the fetch quests are disguised. Where other games that are touted as having wonderful quests have plenty of fetch quests. It's that those games do a better job at hiding the fact they're fetch quests.As I'm fairly certain we all know the Witcher, Edward Kenway and Miles Morales all do some variation of a fetch quest.

[Minarisweet]

the fetch quests need to STOP. they are ok in 2.0 as we are new . they are ok in 3.0 as we are new to the place we are at and non know use. they start to be annoying in 4.0 and 5.0 as we supposed to do some critical missions to save the world. at this point. why we help the locals to move boxes and such BS. its start to be unbearable and close to non playable ion 6.0 . we literally stopping wars and the apocalypse, but we then need to ones more HELP TO MOVE BOXES or GO SERVE DRINKS as apparently we need to help as well. WTF?
why make it so dragging and bad? i better have a 5h MSQ that this.
are we the HERO or an errand boy that at each point no meter how far being tolled he is need to help as well.
did the devs ever played the story they created?

They poke fun at it and let us pick dialogue options mentioning we are just doing chores its very much on purpose.

I don't like it either but its what works for them as a way to extend the msq playtime and thank to god when u get to do some actual combat in dungeons or trials.

Msq is not meant to be a satisfying gaming experience, just a cool story.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Saying that quest is controversial for its difficulty is not really accurate. There are quite a few people, myself included, who don't dislike the difficulty. I just dislike the implementation. XIV is not suited to playing like a stealth game. The aggro ranges were horrendously inconsistent and the invisible walls were stupid. I managed to get through it on my first try with plenty of time to spare, doesn't mean I didn't hate every second of it.

Never encountered such issues. The aggro range is pretty forgiving if you were careful. And I was like you that I did it on my first try and had time to spare. Its implementation was fine.

[Jojoya]

Never encountered such issues. The aggro range is pretty forgiving if you were careful. And I was like you that I did it on my first try and had time to spare. Its implementation was fine.

Aggro range wasn't really an issue. The enemies worked off the standard line-of-sight aggro that we see throughout most of the game. I could "sneak" past literally on the enemy's heels as long as they were looking away from me.

As you said, the timer was very generous. I spent a lot of time exploring the first half of the zone just to see what could be found before I even worked on the actual objectives.

"In from the Cold" is the only RP duty in the game that I've enjoyed doing because it was an extremely good piece of story telling by itself and I was still my own character (even if in someone else's body). I dislike playing as the other NPCs, especially when it feels like random combat added for the sake of giving the player something to do and the meaningful part is in the cutscenes.

[AnnRam]

After endwalker ending I started to literally skip a lot of cutscenes or avoid doing current patch because it feels so slow so generic I cannot tell the difference between 3.0 or ARR in terms of quest design. Too much text like I'm reading 3 pages of a book every 2 minutes just to one point to another.

[Volgia]

I feel like this is only gruelling if you're trying to rush to get to the end, I never felt the fetch quests in Endwalker were that bad, except maybe that epic song going nonstop in Laby part 2.

[Xirean]

A bit confused here. Do you think you are above carrying boxes? Is the task beneath you are something?