Missing Gameplay Infused Roleplay (& Comparing FFXIV Gameplay Roleplay to Other MMOs)

[LilFlowers]

All this stuff is what put me off WoW after its free trial, all this stuff is cool in Classic for a more old school MMO feel, but putting wings so you can glide only on Demon Hunter? Stupid. I much prefer GW2 style of handling stuff like this, they were just like let's give everyone a glider to glide for example.

[Shougun]

All this stuff is what put me off WoW after its free trial, all this stuff is cool in Classic for a more old school MMO feel, but putting wings so you can glide only on Demon Hunter? Stupid. I much prefer GW2 style of handling stuff like this, they were just like let's give everyone a glider to glide for example.

I'll respond to others in a bit but I think it was worth underlining for the last two posts, yours was far more constructive and the other just reads to me as low effort FFXIV #1 (that FFXIV is #1 is fine haha, the part that is unfortunate is just the low effort denial of ideas).

Something I said 3/4 the way down the wall:

NONE of the above has to / should be copied 1:1, that doesn't even make sense in the context of roleplay gameplay.

So I really appreciate that you feel that way and I didn't list a bunch of stuff so it all could be carbon copied. It's not roleplay if we're roleplaying things that are not even in our game... That'd be weird. While I wont quote it I also said early on I'd prefer nothing that feels like you have to restart your game to get that neat effect.

To your statement, you basically said you thought some of it was cool (I think I was getting from that), but you were annoyed by it being walled off. Now though I want to push back on that, given that WoW obviously /was/ annoying to multi-character on, and FFXIV is really easy to multi-job on, do you believe that feeling would actually maintain in this realm?

By that, I mean we are, imo, prime for these ideas when its so easy to switch jobs vs where it can be more annoying if something really cool is not for 'you' because you're not that thing. For example if Dragoon had passive high jump and no fall damage, if you REALLY wanted that in FFXIV it'll take you 2 seconds to switch to that job. Or alternatively if alchemist could make cool goof off potions everyone could use (as currently we honestly have very little roleplay in all of the crafts).

I have my own ideas of what I'd like to see and I am honestly probably more towards something that might feel like "well if I want to jump high I guess I need to be dragoon", but I am also honestly at the point of "ANYTHING" is better than nearly nothing lol. So for me, yeah I'd like Dragoon to have cool high jump (akin to double jump on DH), but you might gain that via other methods too (leaping lizzy boots, grants high jump!). Yet I still respect your feelings on things being partitioned. I believe it adds to the roleplay and if not in a way that doesn't cause huge effort to 'fix' (like restarting your character, good lordy!!) then that's good roleplay. Like talking to animals in BG3 or other roleplay skills there, not too hard to get but they left them in such a way you role... play... the concepts.

Dragoon is my and funnily enough apparently others too lazy (easy ) go to example of clearly the roleplay of Dragoon is they're a great jumper and yet it is not represented in general roleplay of this game (they do have combat jumps though!), funnily Ninja is the one that gets reduced fall damage while Dragoon plummets to the ground just as poorly as everyone else XD.

[LilFlowers]

So more job related passives that anyone can gain such as Ninja run speed/Jump animation? Yeah I'm all for that dude thanks for clarifying.