Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[NekoMataMata]

Reminds me of that one time I was in E9 on RDM doing that step myself a while back. People were dying, especially the healers, I raise people because I'm a nice person. This is a constant over the course of the fight. Suddenly it was just me, the two tanks, and everyone else dead because 'loooool what are mechanics?'. People were screaming for healer lb3.

I scrape one of the healers off the ground, they lb3. Entire party cheers on for the save when it was only possible if one of them was actually up. Another was telling everyone else to comm the healers for carrying the run, despite both of them being down when they were calling for healer lb3.

Bruh, you could've only healer lb3'ed if one of you was actually up. I had to inform the rest of them that I had to raise a healer for them to even get the lb3 off, and the realization for the rest of the party set in. A lot of 'oh...' 'Wait really?' filled the chat.

Since then I've kinda withheld on going on duty finder content as RDM.

Yeah, I've seen that happen. I'm surprised though because I've seen RDM just eat the dirt the entire time while somehow getting credited for all the raises.

I'm going to be toxic and say it. If people are bad enough that you have to carry their corpses through a duty, then sadly they probably aren't even aware of who is carrying them nor do they care.

For the most part, I'm fine with that because I'm getting rewarded via whatever the duty rewards or whatever the quest I have rewards me for doing said duty, but there's some duties where it just feels really bad and you need some appreciation. I don't want someone to grovel, I just want to know that someone cared about all the trouble I went through. That's pretty much it.

Anyways, the good news is that I finished 26 runs of various Eden raids(yes my crystals were that spread out), and now I just have to hope zandor zones 1 and 2 are kinder to me.

[NekoMataMata]

Today's grievances are sponsored by Pepsi Man, who I didn't know had an enrage in normal.

Can't complain too much. I forgot how many compact springs I started with(think it was 16?), but it's no where near as bad when I was grinding out 24-26 Eden raids and it's been somewhat relaxing.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

So... sometimes this happens in Frontline chat. Not too often, but also not entirely unheard of:



The context: Red and Yellow were being facerolled by Blue because Blue had a superb shot caller that leads the entire alliance to farm kills off the ignorant mass that is ice lickers (also known as PvE'er in PvP modes).

These sort of defeatist attitude honestly draining to see. /playdead

Can't we at least try to fight back? I want to win, gdi. -.-

[NekoMataMata]

So... sometimes this happens in Frontline chat. Not too often, but also not entirely unheard of:



The context: Red and Yellow were being facerolled by Blue because Blue had a superb shot caller that leads the entire alliance to farm kills off the ignorant mass that is ice lickers (also known as PvE'er in PvP modes).

These sort of defeatist attitude honestly draining to see. /playdead

Can't we at least try to fight back? I want to win, gdi. -.-

I mean I too want to quit when one team has a decent shotcaller and I'm aware of it, but I'd much rather attempt to fight.

Obviously shotcallers in FL are a massive advantage to the point where I feel like FL should be muted like CC, but you can deal with them. A lot of them spam DRK and they leap in without thinking, so SAM with LB can ruin their day if you lag behind and let them catch you. You'll probably die too, but it's usually more than a fair exchange.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I mean I too want to quit when one team has a decent shotcaller and I'm aware of it, but I'd much rather attempt to fight.

Obviously shotcallers in FL are a massive advantage to the point where I feel like FL should be muted like CC, but you can deal with them. A lot of them spam DRK and they leap in without thinking, so SAM with LB can ruin their day if you lag behind and let them catch you. You'll probably die too, but it's usually more than a fair exchange.

The shot caller in question are very well known as not one who leap in without thinking. The only way to counter them is to counter-flank them instead and if we know anything about generic DF folks, a lot just want to get in and get out ASAP lol (this is the idea of taking advantage of the 'ignorant mass').

On rarer occasion, it does pays off and a win is scored. It just requires somebody to herd the group and enough people that actually -want to try-.

[Jettinson]

So... sometimes this happens in Frontline chat. Not too often, but also not entirely unheard of:



The context: Red and Yellow were being facerolled by Blue because Blue had a superb shot caller that leads the entire alliance to farm kills off the ignorant mass that is ice lickers (also known as PvE'er in PvP modes).

These sort of defeatist attitude honestly draining to see. /playdead

Can't we at least try to fight back? I want to win, gdi. -.-

Ah I had 2 matches which 1 had a premade drk with a drg with great shot calls in my team and won hard.

The next match i was against them but one of my grand company ended up shotcalling because the moment he saw he was against the premade, he made sure to try even harder.
It was so intense, we even managed to counter their flankings and won too and it was close.

Frontline/PvP has its huge problems but it feels so good trying and having some good matches

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

An odd one: O11N via roulette as a SCH.

RDM zones in writing "TOP?" in chat. Nothing seems out of ordinary until for... whatever reason... they simply run toward death wall on adds phase enrage right when two person other player were dead and everybody was having damage down cookies because new tank didn't know they had to stand on meteor tower. At that point my troll alarm is already tingling.

Throughout the rest of the right, I began to notice more oddities such as:
- DRK MT for whatever reason ran to my co-AST and killing them with tankbuster. I had a hunch that was done on purpose.
- The same RDM that wrote "TOP?" in the chat used LB3 twice specifically when the boss are covering the arena with lots and lots of red carpets. It can't be just a coincidence.
- DRK MT then repeats the same shenanigan, to me this time. I'm dead. Oh whatever... they died soon after from AAs. I don't know what was their deal.

Was expecting a wipe, but it never happened. We limped our way through. At the end of the duty, the DRK wrote "Good job on managing that.", to which I personally didn't appreciate at all. (Please, troll with your friends to your heart's content, don't bring me to your mess. Even when I do troll, I would never do anything that would result in one's death. That's not fun).

But hey, at least their shenanigan were caught on HD cause I was in middle of streaming my gameplay lol.

[NekoMataMata]

The shot caller in question are very well known as not one who leap in without thinking. The only way to counter them is to counter-flank them instead and if we know anything about generic DF folks, a lot just want to get in and get out ASAP lol (this is the idea of taking advantage of the 'ignorant mass').

On rarer occasion, it does pays off and a win is scored. It just requires somebody to herd the group and enough people that actually -want to try-.

Is it the elephant suit scholar? That one is always annoying because they're not usually in the front. There's two DRKs that stand out a lot to me and usually you can SAM LB them by lagging behind and letting them catch you as they go to flank you. I wouldn't go as far as to call it a free win, but usually it's enough to motivate your team to fight back and you can turn those clashes around.

It sucks that so much depends on your team though. I've seen good shotcallers fail because they just can't get anyone to follow them. The real reason premades always feels like an issue is the fact that being able to rig 1/6 of your team to actually care about winning is kind of huge.

[Boblawblah]

Just did LotA, bone dragon hit the whole raid with fear right as it died. Was so funny, everyone was just wandering around the arena for like 10 seconds. Never seen it happen before.

Good time lol

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Aetherochemical Research Facility, zoned in as a PLD.

DNC, please partner your co-RPR. And don't forget to actually retrace your dancing steps (pls actually use Standard Steps lol).

WHM died in both phase of last boss. First phase happened around when both ascians was like 30% remaining. Nbd. They died again at 2nd half of the boss, this time together with the solo DNC. RPR managed to pull of LB2 before dying. I tried to save them by attempting to Hallowed the line up marker but they didn't get the cue and stacked together with me even after I run very far away. Solo'd the rest of the 33%.

Gave my comm to the RPR for actually trying. Now, I need my break.

/playdead