/r/ffxivdiscussion Reddit Poll: Do you want anti-cheat in FFXIV?

[ThaCa]

I still find it weird that they aren't doing anything about paid mods, literal RMT within their game.

[Ivtrix]

All of reddit is a joke. A place where people hide behind overbearing modding so their feelings are salvaged. I spend most of my time on reddit seeing how much negative karma I can accumulate.

Reddit is a joke
Official forums are a joke

The entire player base are just idiots who have wrong opinions

/s

[LioJen]

I couldn't care less about "cheating" in PvE content, the only person you're cheating is yourself.

However, in PvP you are actively screwing with someone else's game and chance to win fairly, this is especially bad with things like exclusive Top 100 prizes and such. I don't think anti-cheat software is the answer, I think SE should just have dedicated PvP mods constantly in the mode watching the battle logs and looking for suspicious activity like players who are magically able to toss Ninja LB on anyone the nanosecond their HP hits that threshold, or players who just happen to CC anyone in range the very moment they are in range every time. It's like playing against the button-reading Mortal Kombat 2 AI sometimes.

[NanaWiloh]

I couldn't care less about "cheating" in PvE content, the only person you're cheating is yourself.

However, in PvP you are actively screwing with someone else's game and chance to win fairly, this is especially bad with things like exclusive Top 100 prizes and such. I don't think anti-cheat software is the answer, I think SE should just have dedicated PvP mods constantly in the mode watching the battle logs and looking for suspicious activity like players who are magically able to toss Ninja LB on anyone the nanosecond their HP hits that threshold, or players who just happen to CC anyone in range the very moment they are in range every time. It's like playing against the button-reading Mortal Kombat 2 AI sometimes.

My rules for cheating are as follows.
1. Dont cheat in multi-player.
2. Dont cheat in a competitive enviroment.
3. Outside of the above 2 rules. Cheat long, cheat hard, cheat proudly.

[Gemina]

Well, not everyone. The cheaters don't have to deal with it. That's why they cheat.

And I wasn't talking just about the fall guys event which I already gave up on. I meant things like invisible Hrothgar hats, how the cursor defaults to "no" when turning in HQ gear, how you can't see the timer for housing lottery in the timers menu, how the chat scrolls down when you're trying to read something further up and how that achievements nearing completion pop up and workshop cutscenes still can't be disabled. Oh, and the ping-based prolonged animation lock that's been a problem for the entire history of the game is still there.

It doesn't take much thought to figure out why someone would download a mod when there is a metric ton of jank that shouldn't be in the game. If the jank was gone, there would be fewer reasons to cheat. The devs said as much when they started to fix some of it.

The point of the gif is to show that the plug-in doesn't resolve the jank, so this argument is moot. The reason people are cheating has nothing to do with the jank and netcode, and everything to do with the achievement being tied to a timed, PvP event. The same can be said about world's first ultimate and savage clears. Even though the content is technically PvE, the nature of world's first makes it a PvP contest composed of teams competing against each other. This is a matter of players not wanting to take accountability and would instead place it on the dev team, and reaching for anything they can as the reason. Most people are going to see through this.

Housing is another example of a PvP situation created by a limited resource. And again, players will excuse their hacks by placing accountability on the dev team. And for the sake of argument let's just say they're right. Even then the players are not creating a solution that benefits everyone. Only themselves. At best they are still being selfish and more than willing to resolve their perceived unfairness by cutthroating.

Benign mods is something else entirely. They don't give players an advantage in PvE or PvP content and that's the subject matter currently.

[LilFlowers]

I play at 200 to 300 ms. I double weave fine on CONSOLE. Whoever is claiming they need mods to double weave because of animations is delusional. You are obsessing over a literal 0.1ms clip of your GCD in the name of parse numbers. Brain rot. Sickness must be purged.

[LilFlowers]

This would also in theory make it so it would be impossible for someone unmodded to get the same numbers if that 0.1ms clip did actually matter which in itself is another problem and yet another reason these devs need to start taking the game seriously because people actually play it now. Stop labelling cheating as QoL.

[hynaku]

I play with a ping around 200 to 300 and have 2 bad wrists and 2 bad hands. I sure don't need use any cheats or third-party programs to play FFXIV. I have played other MMO's with anti-cheat systems and I have never had any problems playing them. I'm all for them adding anti-cheat system.

[Darkobra]

All of reddit is a joke. A place where people hide behind overbearing modding so their feelings are salvaged. I spend most of my time on reddit seeing how much negative karma I can accumulate.

If these forums were as moderated as Reddit, do you think you'd be getting away with openly insulting people?

[Fynlar]

I wouldn't really care. Maybe cheats are prolific in the savage/ultimate scene, but I don't do that stuff, so meh.

I have the FG event title and in all of my time getting it, I never came across anyone that was blatantly cheating (by this, I mean doing actual impossible stuff you cannot normally do, not just things like being shown telegraphs for stuff that doesn't normally have telegraphs). Maybe some people were just better at hiding it, but it didn't stop me from getting wins in a reasonable timeframe anyway. Regardless, I think it's far less of an issue there than certain people are making it out to be -- I think most of these people just don't want to admit that they just might not be good at playing the event. Which is fine/unfortunate and all, but don't try to blame others for your shortcomings.