Housing needs to be account based

[Khryseis_Astra]

Instanced housing is the way to go for the future. I would greatly give up on my personal house if I had to chance for an instanced house similar or better than my house.

This system could also take away lots of gil. It could go like this:

First you buy an appartment. Now you can upgrade it with gil. Having a small exterior for 1 million (like a small voidgarden in a middle of desert/forest/island/snowycliffs), where you have a small garden, where you can place down gardenitems (we really do have too many) and a small view. After that you can upgrade the interior and exterior for more gil. The more money you invest, the bigger it gets.

If you use the same models like for housing you would have hardly any work to do as a dev.

Or/and, like mentioned before, we could buy instanced houses like in TESO or similar MMOs. We saw with island sanctuary, that if you strip away 30 decorated small gardens from different players, you could easily allow more than 90 decorations per player, when they are alone.

I agree. Just adding more wards (automatically or not) doesn’t take into account the server space that it would take to keep those wards permanently loaded and accessible!

It would’ve been nice if they had ever made a housing ward with all the plots the same size, so they would be upgradable as people earned the gil and/or decided they wanted a larger space. But they didn’t. And the fact that they’re working on a housing mirage is evidence that they did not intend for the larger sizes to be some sort of status symbol for only a lucky few.

For my part, I want to see all the features that could be added to an instanced system that we’ll probably never see in the wards because of their limitations. Look at what they did on the island for starters. I want 90 outdoor item slots for my small yard! I want the possibility of open air housing skins, accessible and useable balconies, the ability to change the ground texture of the yard, etc. So many more features we could have if we actually had an instanced option!

[Mika_Zahard]

Idk I don't feel like giving up my second and third house.

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[Brynne]

This system could also take away lots of gil. It could go like this:

First you buy an appartment. Now you can upgrade it with gil. Having a small exterior for 1 million (like a small voidgarden in a middle of desert/forest/island/snowycliffs), where you have a small garden, where you can place down gardenitems (we really do have too many) and a small view. After that you can upgrade the interior and exterior for more gil. The more money you invest, the bigger it gets.

If you use the same models like for housing you would have hardly any work to do as a dev.

I've suggested this a few times, it seems like such a good solution. I don't know if it'd make very many people give up their houses or ease the housing crunch, but it would at least give people without a house some more space to decorate and a place to put their outdoor furnishings if they want.

[SigmaOZ]

@OP


Having many alt characters I would really welcome more account-wide stuff, like housing, achievements, MSQ and more.


It's incredibly tedious to repeat the MSQ with all characters under the same server, all of them could share the MSQ progress.

[Raven2014]

. The only ones who will complain are the ones who have multiple houses, which are the source of all these problems already.

No they are not. Even if you manage to take back all the house from every account save 2, it will not even put a dent on the scarcity issue. The issue is their system, always was, always has been, and always will be until a new system or a new MMO implemented.

This kind of ill-informed statement just to show how easy it is to manipulated people into going after their fellows in hoping they will ignore the core of the issue. It's like water conversation. This is like city administration LOVE putting out initiatives like 'don't water your grass or don't flush your toilet more than once a day". And they love seeing residence shaming and villianify each others over these initiative, because it means people would not look at the fact how those admins are linning up their pocket with industrial money who the main source water wasting.


EVERY single housing suggestion should be directed at the developers instead of going after your fellow players.

[Stormpeaks]

No they are not. Even if you manage to take back all the house from every account save 2, it will not even put a dent on the scarcity issue. The issue is their system, always was, always has been, and always will be until a new system or a new MMO implemented.

This kind of ill-informed statement just to show how easy it is to manipulated people into going after their fellows in hoping they will ignore the core of the issue. It's like water conversation. This is like city administration LOVE putting out initiatives like 'don't water your grass or don't flush your toilet more than once a day". And they love seeing residence shaming and villianify each others over these initiative, because it means people would not look at the fact how those admins are linning up their pocket with industrial money who the main source water wasting.


EVERY single housing suggestion should be directed at the developers instead of going after your fellow players.

Exactly this tbh, thank you.

[Jojoya]

mmm, fair enough, yea, I guess it's not instanced housing, but unlimited housing. My error on the word instanced. Remove demo timers, unlimited wards, players would be happy.

That still wouldn't make players happy if they were stuck with a Goblet small when they wanted a LB 41 or Mist 5.

With a good instanced housing system, every player could get the size and location they want. The prestige driven players would be unhappy and some might well unsubscribe but their numbers would be a drop in the bucket compared to those now much happier with their housing.

EVERY single housing suggestion should be directed at the developers instead of going after your fellow players.

Very true. They're the ones who designed the housing system. They're the ones who have allowed players to own multiple houses even on worlds where the number of available plots isn't sufficient for the world's population.

Taking things away from players that they put effort into acquiring is a poor choice. Instead, the focus should be on improving access to those things for all players.

A good instanced housing system will do that. If everyone wanted a LB 41 for each of their characters, they could have a LB 41 for their characters. Everyone having it wouldn't change what makes that plot so desirable in the first place. Ward housing could still exist for those that prefer it since SE has already spent the resources creating it.

No one loses anything of value.

[Stormpeaks]

That still wouldn't make players happy if they were stuck with a Goblet small when they wanted a LB 41 or Mist 5.

With a good instanced housing system, every player could get the size and location they want. The prestige driven players would be unhappy and some might well unsubscribe but their numbers would be a drop in the bucket compared to those now much happier with their housing.


Very true. They're the ones who designed the housing system. They're the ones who have allowed players to own multiple houses even on worlds where the number of available plots isn't sufficient for the world's population.

Taking things away from players that they put effort into acquiring is a poor choice. Instead, the focus should be on improving access to those things for all players.

A good instanced housing system will do that. If everyone wanted a LB 41 for each of their characters, they could have a LB 41 for their characters. Everyone having it wouldn't change what makes that plot so desirable in the first place. Ward housing could still exist for those that prefer it since SE has already spent the resources creating it.

No one loses anything of value.

How to remove any value and prestige out of housing in 1 lesson.

No thanks, and I can only be glad they are showing they are not interested in going down that road. Instanced is terrible.

Improve the ward system.

[NanaWiloh]

If they can successfully implement the mirage system their working on. Then the outdoor space of larges and mediums will become the only reason to get one.

[Ravenblade1979]

I find it really hard for Yoshi-P to decide to implement our so desired instanced housing in this game, I mean, you would have to demolish every personal house, every FC house, every venue, people would get mad af. But account based housing, yeah that's easy to do. The only ones who will complain are the ones who have multiple houses, which are the source of all these problems already.

Also this game needs more account wide stuff. Mogstation and seasonal items, achievements, MSQ, all that should be account wide.

Btw Lakeland residential district when?

Actually you could do instanced housing but while the maintenance is going on for it. Transfer ppls private/fc's to the instanced server so they lose nothing. The ppl this would make mad would be the people who own multiple and that's honestly not alot and face it...we still get new players for these players hissy fit to be laughed off.

Then they would just need to implement the current way stuff is set or tweak it to add ability to build up your house etc and allow 200 ppl to visit. Sounds hard I know but would be a way.

Other then that just add a small fee of a few dollars to the monthly sub as going towards upkeep to the instanced servers. It would be a qol and finally people could stop mass crying for housing.