Samurai Deleted Action(s), Comeback of Ageha in 7.x or beyond?

[TheDustyOne]

Interesting, I know Iaijutsu was actually used, but from what I understand of it, it wasn't a battlefield maneuver, but more like a self-defence thing, possibly execution, or pre-emptive attacking, which was what I was trying to convey (rather poorly honestly). Either way I don't have an issue with it being in-game, but moreso was just pointing out you wouldn't realistically want to resheathe a weapon mid-combat. I'm willing to eat my words on that however.

And yeah, that was the point I was making overall; the attacks are a mix of fantasy and some grounding in reality. Silly things like the Kaiten spin are pure fantasy, which is fun. That said, I never really claimed to be particularly knowledgeable on japanese culture either, most of my knowledge I admit is very cursory and simple.

[Cynric]

Interesting, I know Iaijutsu was actually used, but from what I understand of it, it wasn't a battlefield maneuver, but more like a self-defence thing, possibly execution, or pre-emptive attacking, which was what I was trying to convey (rather poorly honestly). Either way I don't have an issue with it being in-game, but moreso was just pointing out you wouldn't realistically want to resheathe a weapon mid-combat. I'm willing to eat my words on that however.

And yeah, that was the point I was making overall; the attacks are a mix of fantasy and some grounding in reality. Silly things like the Kaiten spin are pure fantasy, which is fun. That said, I never really claimed to be particularly knowledgeable on japanese culture either, most of my knowledge I admit is very cursory and simple.

Oh that's quite alright. I just really like swords and Japanese culture and just wanted to give you some information on the topic.

In terms of practical use sheathing your sword makes your line of attack somewhat vague(you can attack from many different angles very quickly) and adds speed to the cut(due to propelling the blade with your thumb and using body momentum).
It depends more on the style of Kenjutsu on how many drawing techniques you use with the modern Iaido being basically all about drawing techniques.

As for Kaitens sword spin, there are actually sheathing techniques that look very similar. There's all sorts of ways to flip your sword around because you strike with the blade toward the opponent but sheathe with the blade side towards the sky to keep the blade from dulling. That's why for example in game the sheathe has the blade pointing towards the sky. When walking around with your sword sheathed if the blade were near the bottom of the saya(sheathe) it would dull very quickly, and katana had to always be sharpened and ready.

I would assume since Kaiten was only used before Iaijutsu (yes ogi namakiri is also a type of iaijutsu) it's kind of meant to be like a spin before sheathing the blade to draw it for the next strike.

[HikariKurosawa]

Oh that's quite alright. I just really like swords and Japanese culture and just wanted to give you some information on the topic.

In terms of practical use sheathing your sword makes your line of attack somewhat vague(you can attack from many different angles very quickly) and adds speed to the cut(due to propelling the blade with your thumb and using body momentum).
It depends more on the style of Kenjutsu on how many drawing techniques you use with the modern Iaido being basically all about drawing techniques.

As for Kaitens sword spin, there are actually sheathing techniques that look very similar. There's all sorts of ways to flip your sword around because you strike with the blade toward the opponent but sheathe with the blade side towards the sky to keep the blade from dulling. That's why for example in game the sheathe has the blade pointing towards the sky. When walking around with your sword sheathed if the blade were near the bottom of the saya(sheathe) it would dull very quickly, and katana had to always be sharpened and ready.

I would assume since Kaiten was only used before Iaijutsu (yes ogi namakiri is also a type of iaijutsu) it's kind of meant to be like a spin before sheathing the blade to draw it for the next strike.

The sword is never re-oriented before drawing the katana out of the saya entirely. It makes absolutely zero sense from the angle of realistic function to do anything like that prior to actually drawing the sword, let alone before sheathing it. By the time you have drawn it too, the attack is engaged and there is no time for weeb flair animations. The angle of the cut is determined in an instant when the tip of the sword leaves the koiguchi of the saya. It is both dangerous and incorrect to ever orient the saya any way other than with the blade edge facing upward while it is at the hip.

Everything else you're right about, but kaiten literally makes no sense in the context of samurai on top of looking like an animation some katana user from a poorly written anime would use.

It's fine for square enix to do what they want sure, but they clearly didn't want kaiten in the game anymore and I think ikishoten should be removed next. It feels bad to use these animations as someone who actually appreciates japanese swordplay.