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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I gave my stance on this already, you could get blacklisted without even upsetting the owner of the venue directly, all it needs is one of the owners friends to not like you and you're blacklisted off of the entire venue even though you might not have done anything.

    You have 0 right to enter venues. It's not in the tos. It's not anywhere.



    Why do you think you have this right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I gave my stance on this already, you could get blacklisted without even upsetting the owner of the venue directly, all it needs is one of the owners friends to not like you and you're blacklisted off of the entire venue even though you might not have done anything.
    Why would anyone want to go to a venue that does something like that in the first place. The player base needs more mechanisms to deal with player harassment and trolling. Plot locking for blacklisted players is such a feature that could easily be implemented, and the community could easily call out venues that abuse this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    You have 0 right to enter venues. It's not in the tos. It's not anywhere.



    Why do you think you have this right?
    Keep your house closed.

    I fixed it for you, was my pleasure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    I gave my stance on this already, you could get blacklisted without even upsetting the owner of the venue directly, all it needs is one of the owners friends to not like you and you're blacklisted off of the entire venue even though you might not have done anything. It's too open to personal bias.

    The focus should be on the other issues I mentioned because they are major issues.

    Well, one major issue you seem to disagree with them fixing is individuals owning multiple houses or even entire wards.





    Your excuse is "it's not against the tos". You know what else isn't? Being blacklisted. You know what else isn't? The right to enter venues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Well, one major issue you seem to disagree with them fixing is individuals owning multiple houses or even entire wards.





    Your excuse is "it's not against the tos". You know what else isn't? Being blacklisted. You know what else isn't? The right to enter venues.
    Sad the gif didn't work on mobile, ill just write it down myself.

    Blah blah blah multiowners bad blah blah blah

    Zzzzzzzz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Sad the gif didn't work on mobile, ill just write it down myself.

    Blah blah blah multiowners bad blah blah blah

    Zzzzzzzz



    Blah blah blah people don't like me so I got blacklisted from venues blah blah blah


    Same energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Blah blah blah people don't like me so I got blacklisted from venues blah blah blah


    Same energy.
    Oh no you hurt my fee fees, whatever will i do.

    Lmao, do better buddy.

    Let me go to my m35 to cry about it. Then maybe I'll go to some of my other ones too and shed a little tear at each of them just for you.

    Hey I can be petty too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Oh no you hurt my fee fees, whatever will i do.

    Lmao, do better buddy.

    Let me go to my m35 to cry about it. Then maybe I'll go to some of my other ones too and shed a little tear at each of them just for you.

    Hey I can be petty too.



    I have a house I'm perfectly happy with. I'm just pointing out the hypocricy of your stances. No blacklisting from venues because I don't like it so it's not an issue, but I have multiple houses so while others see that as an issue it's not because it's not expressly forbidden in the tos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Blocking people out of venues is not a priority no, sorry, nor should it be implemented at all to be fair.

    Venues are open spaces, and as for individuals, they can just close their house. That's what I personally do too, I dont need random people in my house.

    The lodestone issues which lead to cross region stalking and the friend list issue which lead to actual in person stalking as people know where you are,are the actual issues.

    Also fyi it ain't being contrarian, we just disagree, idk why it's riling you up this much.
    It comes off as contrarian because you gave an initial reasoning that people quickly pointed out wasn't good enough, so you immediately jumped to a case of whataboutism.

    I don't see why you would use whataboutism in this case, considering you agree that almost all of these are issues and that you want the game to be better. Since you want the game to be better, why not just support having all of the issues fixed eventually instead of attempting to paint some issues as more important than others?

    Also, something odd I remembered. Weren't you one of the people that had issues with Renalt creeping around in people's houses uninvited? That wouldn't happen if people could block blacklisted people from entering their houses or if people had better housing privacy settings such as only allowing friends to enter.

    Here's a refresher by the way:
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Probably for him to not open his mouth about Aveyond when he's as terrible of a person as Aveyond is. And yes people like that should be shamed, or do you think creeping up in people's houses and watching them ERP hiding in a side room is okay too ? That added to the whole Aveyond harassement and stalking is not normal behavior
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I have a house I'm perfectly happy with. I'm just pointing out the hypocricy of your stances. No blacklisting from venues because I don't like it so it's not an issue, but I have multiple houses so while others see that as an issue it's not because it's not expressly forbidden in the tos.
    Or maybe just maybe I have myself dealt with stalking in this game because of the very same reasons I mentioned. I didn't get followed to random venues, but I was watched, basically hunted and the person could literally follow me everywhere I went thanks to the amazing friend list system, and when I tried to "flee" and go away by changing world and even dc, I was tracked down thanks to my lodestone and they found my new name.

    This forum on mobile is something else but I'll respond to you as well Neko, the solution in that particular scenario would have been to have the house closed if you are doing those kind of things. I don't see why a blacklist would help except if the person repeats the same thing multiple times, at which point they can be reported to SE (which probably won't do anything but that's another topic)
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 11-12-2023 at 03:12 AM.

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