Dawntrail needs to better, not just more.

[Connor]

Maybe it’s just me, but frankly I’d still say every ffxiv expansion has been more or less the same quality to me lol. Like 7-8/10?

I feel like the main thing that defines each expansion is the issues/mistakes it made lol, like Heavensward’s initial raid release or Stormblood’s super synergy debacle. Shadowbringers had the beginnings of simplified gameplay, Endwalker doubled down on it lol. Once you put those to the side though, I’d say one of ffxiv’s strongest points has been its absolute consistency lol (for better and worse)

[Derio]

DT needs to be better. Balance of jobs needs to be better. Healers need to be better. Bringing back large scale content needs to happen and the relic needs to be better. Side story content needs to be better and more engaging. Headgear for races needs to be improved along with hairstyles. FFXIV is great, but I think most people were really let down with EW in comparison to SHB. But overall EW still delivered a good gaming experience which most of us are sure DT will deliver.

[ElysiumDragon]

Give healers more damage buttons, add Bozja 2, and expand the '2-minute meta' to 1 and 3 minute variants depending on the job, with rotations lining up at opener and 6 minute intervals, and add tokens for tome gear to Criterion, to facilitate easier gearing of alt jobs.

There, I saved Final Fantasy XIV from it's "Inevitable Downfall", and in under 50 words too, without a 30 minute rant video.

Please clap, or whatever.

[strawberrycake]

Give healers more damage buttons, add Bozja 2, and expand the '2-minute meta' to 1 and 3 minute variants depending on the job, with rotations lining up at opener and 6 minute intervals, and add tokens for tome gear to Criterion, to facilitate easier gearing of alt jobs.

There, I saved Final Fantasy XIV from it's "Inevitable Downfall", and in under 50 words too, without a 30 minute rant video.

Please clap, or whatever.

It's really that simple, but we gotta stand on aires about it.

[Brixy]

The main problem with Endwalker was all the content was bland with no re-playability in it. Variant dungeons are solo content with 0 reason to keep doing it once you get the paths done for the mounts, which can be done in a couple of hours. I guess you could also choose to grind it for gil, but is that really the bar we are setting for content now? It has sellable glamour so you can opt to not even do the content and buy the items instead! yay! Criterion had 0 reason to run it until recently and even now the added rewards from player feedback are way off the mark. Why are we adding BLU weapons to content that BLU can't even do? Relic weapons simply involve you throwing tomes at it and that's a pretty damn lazy design tbh. Island sanctuary is the most boring piece of "content" I've ever seen for something that was so hyped up before release lol. Even the storyline for endwalker felt like it was rushed in some parts.

I mean... what exactly do you expect people to do when you remove the relic grind and remove all ties to the current content to make them. I didn't put in any form of effort to make these weapons... I happened to notice I was capped on tomes and bought some items and got a glowy reward. Yay! They also chose to add solo content over something like PotD/HoH or Eureka/Bozja. I can't imagine why there is such an influx of people playing other things and have dulled their expectations for the next expansion. At least we get 2 dye slots though!

[SeverianLyonesse]

The main problem with Endwalker was all the content was bland with no re-playability in it. Variant dungeons are solo content with 0 reason to keep doing it once you get the paths done for the mounts, which can be done in a couple of hours. I guess you could also choose to grind it for gil, but is that really the bar we are setting for content now? It has sellable glamour so you can opt to not even do the content and buy the items instead! yay! Criterion had 0 reason to run it until recently and even now the added rewards from player feedback are way off the mark. Why are we adding BLU weapons to content that BLU can't even do? Relic weapons simply involve you throwing tomes at it and that's a pretty damn lazy design tbh. Island sanctuary is the most boring piece of "content" I've ever seen for something that was so hyped up before release lol. Even the storyline for endwalker felt like it was rushed in some parts.

I mean... what exactly do you expect people to do when you remove the relic grind and remove all ties to the current content to make them. I didn't put in any form of effort to make these weapons... I happened to notice I was capped on tomes and bought some items and got a glowy reward. Yay! They also chose to add solo content over something like PotD/HoH or Eureka/Bozja. I can't imagine why there is such an influx of people playing other things and have dulled their expectations for the next expansion. At least we get 2 dye slots though!

Variant dungeons needed currency or special item drops or achievement rewards, probably a combination of all three, for the relic weapon. I think the only reason they didn't do that is because there were only three dungeons; but had they made like 5-6 I think that would have sustained an entire relic system.

[CNitsah]

Honestly at this point I just want the game to have long running content, so I'm not done with the content one week after patch release. That has been so bad in endwalker, it's the first time in 3.5 years I suspended my sub. I'm at a point where I'm starting to be ok with losing my medium house. I'm still going to do DT, but honestly, my interest in ffxiv has been eroding for the past month, and it's not fatigue or being "burn out with the game". It's boredom.

[xbahax92]

My biggest issue is, that the forums or generally whoever is providing and translating feedback from NA/EU discussion, is not 100% correct.
Whatever we're asking for, they do implement it, but in a way that it still is restricting, uncreative and timegated.

I've been on the forums for a long while now and it is true that people do ask for a lot of stuff. Many ideas have been visioned, but did not click with the community/playerbase.

Remembering about:

- Deep Dungeons. People already had an idea about endless floors. It has been asked and was well received by the community.
- Expert Dungeons/Roulettes. Community asked for harder daily dungeons / roulettes. What did we get? Criterion. Was it a success? Partially, if they wouldnt be so stubborn about certain difficulties and rewards.
- Relics. ARR and HW relics were super grindy. Farming the books or """"light""""" for hours, it was truely some torture, but you had something to work for. Players asked a new method to grind the relic.
- Eureka/Bozja. While the content is not bad and I enjoyed it fully. Some people despise it. And honestly, Anemos was a great map, but a huge mess at release. To think that devs wanted us to sit there and kill monsters for hours... It's so silly, when I think about it. I've sit there and played the same job rotation for 2 hours just to farm protean crystals. Pyros and Hydatos just barely managed to be better, because all the feedback (be it bunny FATE and the treasure maps, logos actions etc) was accepted.

So no matter what feedback we provide, I believe that, some of our ideas/thoughts is lost in translation.
Or they simply ignore or cannot envision them. Is the problem the game's engine? Server structure limitations? End-user protection?

Whatever Dawntrail's gonna be, it'll still suprise and disappoint us. Pretty sure about it.

[Battler-Ushiromiya]

There's nothing wrong with the game, go play 11 if you want bad design choices lmao

[Ath192]

There's nothing wrong with the game, go play 11 if you want bad design choices lmao

Thats why it was the Final Fantasy franchise's most profitable game. Bad design. This game is gonna go the same way if it doesn't get better though, so they may share the same fate.