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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Marilith
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asdrubael View Post
    You clearly don’t know how good they are if you aren’t impressed with the stats. It has 46 more craftsmanship, 7 more CP, and 34 more control. That’s having 3 tier X materia, 2 tier IX materia, and a tier VII CP materia at no additional cost with a little extra stats on the side as a tiny bonus. Plus icing on the cake for it all is the good quality buff.
    A better way to put it would be to say that the Lodestar tool gives us an extra Materia IX of stats over fully pentamelded HQ Indagator. Your math is slightly off if you think it's the equivalent of 3 Xs and 2 IXs plus the CP. If that were the case, it would be +54 Craftsmanship and +42 Control instead of +46 and +34.

    The real benefit is the additional .25 multiplier on Good procs.

    My complaint with the Lodestar is the same one I had with the Skybuilder - the additional Craftsmanship on the tool isn't sufficient for me to drop a Synthesis step while I lose Control compared to my pentamelded HQ Indagators. In order to benefit from the pure stats, I would have to remeld my other gear to bring my Craftsmanship back to current levels and regain the lost Control. Doing that would force me to commit to grinding all the Lodestar crafting tools, not just a select one or two. If they would give it the same base stats as HQ Indagator plus 5 materia sockets, I'd be a lot happier with it. That would allow me to meld them as I need to fit in with the stats I already have.

    Considering I've been crafting hundreds of Diadochos gear pieces since 6.4, switching to Lodestar isn't necessary to continue crafting those. I've been "meh" on Expert this expansion because it's only there to make gil and I've already got plenty of gil. I've been doing some for myself and friends who want the IS landmarks but quickly stopped selling the parts on the marketboard.

    I miss the long term achievements Expert was given in Shadowbringers and would still prefer Expert recipes for creating a variety of glamour items. Shiny tools aren't what I'm interested in when it comes to glamour.

    So despite the Lodestar tools being technically better, I have no compelling reason to put in the effort to grind them out. They might ease leveling in Dawntrail by a tiny amount but I suspect that the multiplier bonus will be disabled on level 100 recipes (if not 91) and even then most of the bonus could be offset by the superior stats that level 100 tools will have.
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    Leonel Tinolqa
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Does the bonus on "good" cobdition made otter fountain components easiler to make with these tools ? The foubtain components felt impossible to make unless rng is in my favor.
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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Zalera
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IHOJ View Post
    Does the bonus on "good" cobdition made otter fountain components easiler to make with these tools ? The foubtain components felt impossible to make unless rng is in my favor.
    The bonus on "Good" is basically the KEY to getting these components done
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino