Potential Sub Price Decrease

[Midare]

The amount of content devs put for every major patch (~4 months) does not justify sub pricing model at all. You know where all the money go aswell .... to side projects ....

Something a lot of people seems to forget when talking about subs, is that servers are a thing that need to be maintained. I'm talking about the actual, physical servers.

That's what the sub fee goes to. You get access to log in, and in return, the servers are kept in good conditions.

Also, OP, you're ignoring the budget increase it's noticeable. You can see it on more elaborated cutscenes and visuals in general (like the upcoming graphics update). You hear it in the gradual increase in voiced cutscenes from HW to EW.

The budget doesn't go to development alone, it goes to a lot of things.

[NekoMataMata]

That's what the sub fee goes to. You get access to log in, and in return, the servers are kept in good conditions.

All the NA servers were in poor condition a few nights ago actually...


Just a shot from a big thread that was up on the main FFXIV subreddit before anyone decides to call me a liar.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

All the NA servers were in poor condition a few nights ago actually...


Just a shot from a big thread that was up on the main FFXIV subreddit before anyone decides to call me a liar.

That's not the servers though, that's the network outside them lol.


That is XIV up website is also not a great indicator because it just pings the servers from where it's located. If the bad network node is in its path, it's going to show problems. Meanwhile, people who's path doesn't take that node will have zero issues.





We had raid the night those issues were reported, and no one in my group had issues. I have someone in Orlando, 2 in Ohio, 1 near Chicago, one near Detroit, one in Oklahoma, and I'm near Seattle.

[NekoMataMata]

That's not the servers though, that's the network outside them lol.


That is XIV up website is also not a great indicator because it just pings the servers from where it's located. If the bad network node is in its path, it's going to show problems. Meanwhile, people who's path doesn't take that node will have zero issues.





We had raid the night those issues were reported, and no one in my group had issues. I have someone in Orlando, 2 in Ohio, 1 near Chicago, one near Detroit, one in Oklahoma, and I'm near Seattle.

Still an issue isn't it? I'm willing to admit that they don't have control over the nodes, but they do have influence over them that they refuse to exert because they don't care about those of us outside of JP.

Anyways, a lot of people did have issues. There's 89 replies on the thread I snipped. I had issues, as well as most everyone in Eureka with me at the time.

But that's just a whole thread of individuals' words against you and your static. It's kind of silly to reach into individual experiences as a means of disproving/proving something. It's not like we can't tell from your post history that you love SE with all your heart and that you'll defend them regardless of the situation.

[DPZ2]

Still an issue isn't it? I'm willing to admit that they don't have control over the nodes, but they do have influence over them that they refuse to exert because they don't care about those of us outside of JP.

And an East Coast Data Center would help, how? Cross-datacenter play is a thing. Your East Coast Data Center has issues because of Internet provider. It's your raid night, and everyone has travelled to a West Coast Data Center in order to raid. Too bad NTT/Comcast/<insert your own Internet Provider here> screwed up.

The truth of the matter is that multiple data centers in a region are just as susceptible to outside networking problems as single data centers in a region. Most of the "89 replies" you mentioned (yeah, I read through them) were along the line of "it's problematic" and "what the heck NTT?", not "this could be resolved by SE, they don't care because <mumble mumble> Japan".

"It's not like we can't tell from your post history that you love SE with all your heart and that you'll defend them regardless of the situation."

Don't have anything useful to say? Just said "it's kind of silly to reach into individual experiences" after providing "89 replies" that do exactly that? Slander the poster. Classic.

[NekoMataMata]

And an East Coast Data Center would help, how? Cross-datacenter play is a thing. Your East Coast Data Center has issues because of Internet provider. It's your raid night, and everyone has travelled to a West Coast Data Center in order to raid. Too bad NTT/Comcast/<insert your own Internet Provider here> screwed up.

The truth of the matter is that multiple data centers in a region are just as susceptible to outside networking problems as single data centers in a region. Most of the "89 replies" you mentioned (yeah, I read through them) were along the line of "it's problematic" and "what the heck NTT?", not "this could be resolved by SE, they don't care because <mumble mumble> Japan".

"It's not like we can't tell from your post history that you love SE with all your heart and that you'll defend them regardless of the situation."

Don't have anything useful to say? Just said "it's kind of silly to reach into individual experiences" after providing "89 replies" that do exactly that? Slander the poster. Classic.

You don't know the meaning of the world slander. My point when I said it's silly to reach into individual experiences was that I too could reference other people's experiences with an issue that someone claimed didn't exist, and that neither should be considered more valid than the other as it always comes down to a case of, "he said, she said" or conflicting statements. As for my comment on their post history, what do you want me to say? It wasn't meant to hurt their feelings, merely to point out their bias.

As for the rest, no one mentioned it, but it's always been an issue from what I've heard during the major times there's been a good portion of the playerbase having connection issues with the game. Every year there seems to be some moment in time where some portion of the playerbase has connection issues due to whatever is going on between NTT and their ISP. It's consistently always NTT that's the issue, regardless of the other ISPs involved. SE has a partnership with NTT, so they have some degree of influence there. I'm not an expert on the situation and I'll admit it, but I feel like you can come to this conclusion with a bit of logic.

Anyways, fix your attitude. Again, you talk about slander, but you got aggressive, mocked me and even went as far as to make claims that I made statements that I had not. At least I'm somewhat civil with my replies.