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  1. #61
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    Zarkovitch's Avatar
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    Sid Zarkovitch
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    Siren
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Square Enix, The Devs, cannot make good 4 mans content confirm. This is such a shame yet again they mess up. I'm sure the feedback will help to fix it... Oh wait it didnt. Seriously, The Devs, go back board and put effort to understand your content. I'm seriously annoyed. Delete Savage criterion and put rewards on normal with weekly cap like savage raid, you be fine. Done, I fix the content. Horayyy, GG EZ
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  2. #62
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    Airum Bellum
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Absolutely love that a BLU weapon is locked behind criterion savage content. Like, why? I'm really debating on if it's even worth to do normal criterion anymore. Like OP said "still not enough motivation"
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  3. #63
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    Benedikta Harman
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    Moogle
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun View Post
    Yes there is a really nice glow added akin to a relic upgrade and I’ve already seen multiple people say they want to try this content to get one. I’ve even seen multiple people point out that they look better than the last savage weapons. People are really jumping the gun on this, people should at least look at the weapons first before sounding off
    trust me, no one's gonna do criterion savage only for glam, there's no way
    even hardcore raider, they gonna do it only 1 times
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  4. #64
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    Charming Tulip
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elkanah View Post
    LMFAO. Not squeenix locking BLU upgrades BEHIND content they cant even enter. What a kick in the di*k
    "BLU Upgrades" it's literally just a glam to add VFX to the weapon, there's no stat difference between this one and the one it upgrades from.
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  5. #65
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    Amh Wilzuun
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    Famfrit
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    trust me, no one's gonna do criterion savage only for glam, there's no way
    even hardcore raider, they gonna do it only 1 times
    It’s me, I’m no one
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  6. #66
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SnowVix View Post
    "BLU Upgrades" it's literally just a glam to add VFX to the weapon, there's no stat difference between this one and the one it upgrades from.
    That is EVEN WORSE then. Why lockout a job that cant go in? This is why limited jobs are stupid.
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  7. #67
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Marauder Lv 82
    Quote Originally Posted by Airum View Post
    Absolutely love that a BLU weapon is locked behind criterion savage content. Like, why? I'm really debating on if it's even worth to do normal criterion anymore. Like OP said "still not enough motivation"
    Dumbest shit Ive seen yet. Excuse me that this wasnt a reward for doing any of the Eden Savages or heck if they implemented a Hard mode version of the new Masked Carnivale trials or something.
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  8. #68
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    Ymir Bombullshale
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    Halicarnassus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Airum View Post
    Absolutely love that a BLU weapon is locked behind criterion savage content. Like, why? I'm really debating on if it's even worth to do normal criterion anymore. Like OP said "still not enough motivation"
    I don't play BLU but this is absolutely a slap in the face to the people who do. Having to go clear level 90 savage content to get a glam for your Job that's not even allowed in if it was 90.
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  9. #69
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    Hydrogen Hydroxide
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun View Post
    You are leaving out one of the most significant groups which is people who will want to clear it for the weapon glam

    Also some people are gated by time commitment/schedule as why they didn’t clear the savage tier rather than their skill at the game. I’m theory criterion savage should be lower commitment
    It is lower commitment. The criterion normal should take less than 6h (1 + 2 + 3 per boss) to prog after watching a guide with decent teammates and c.savage has the same boss mechs.

    However even these glowy weapons do not appeal to *me* a lot, and *probably* to a lot of people who cleared ultimates. IMO they look more like EX weapons and just not on the same level as ultimates. I just use ult weapons for every job except for BLU(only used during certain moogle events) and SCH (imo Eureka pyros butterfly stomps all). If I ever decide to do c.savage it's just gonna be for collecting purpose. Those weapons will surely be just sitting in my retainer or my glam box.

    Just my 2 cents and prediction: people who do/*farm* it *multiple times* for glam are gonna be mostly collectors, who probably also have the ishgard restoration mount; and people who are good enough to clear EX/savage but not ults, and care to spend time on c.savage. The 2nd group of people imo won't be a large group because glam people probably already cleared ults anyway. I do believe some ult players will still clear it for achievements but my point is *farming* it, which is what SE is shooting for anyway. In other words, I do believe the content will be quite dead just like the previous c.savages/normals but who knows for sure? Only time will tell.
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  10. #70
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    Grimahed Darkovin
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Haven't gone to the vendor yet to look at them (I wasn't able to find them before I had to log off earlier) but knowing what the reward is, it missed the mark of what me and many others are asking for. It's on the right track, I think the tome weapon augment from 660-665 with glows should stay, however...It simply just is not enough on its own.

    *Bear in mind with these couple points I am stating them with a weekly lockout in mind
    • Criterion Normal is still completely ignored, which is a major point of feedback. Allow us to get tome armor augments from there considering we need the gear to even enter Criterion(Savage) at the higher item level we do. This would also tremendously help gear alt jobs.
    • On release we STILL would need to get the augment through savage normal raids in order to augment the weapon, which is missing the point of us being able to use this content as an alternate source of gearing entirely. Either allow us to get tome weapon augments (i.e 650-660) through Criterion Normal or allow us to augment it on odd numbered patches on release with the alliance raid currency. The former would likely be better as it would feel like there's more of a sense of progression with that content in particular (especially if the variant/criterion dungeon releases during an even numbered patch).

    Again, I still think the weapon augment from 660-665 should stay, and I think it should 100% stay in Criterion Savage, it will for certain encapsulate and feel like you really earned it (for glamour, IL, or otherwise), but that alone simply just is not enough.
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