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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshinoharu View Post
    Though that would be wonderful for someone like me in the short term I DO think it makes it way too easy and almost invalidates the tome system entirely which is why I was going for a more middle-ground approach.
    The problem with your approach is it also means the tomestone grind is finished faster for people who start later in the tier and only gear one job, which could affect the amount of people doing things such as expert roulette still. Exchanging gear back for tomestones means you still have to grind all the tomestones if you want all the jobs, but it allows you to switch mains if, for example, a static wants you to switch.

    If we just want all all jobs to be fully geared but faster, then just making it the same as grinding for one job is really the only way, however it's done. But it would affect the amount of people doing content such as expert roulette because their reason for doing it is significantly reduced once all jobs have their gear. I don't have much reason to do it since I don't use many of these other jobs, but it is the reason I give myself to do it and I would stop doing it if I had no jobs left to gear.
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    yoshinoharu's Avatar
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    Haru Yoshino
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The problem with your approach is it also means the tomestone grind is finished faster for people who start later in the tier and only gear one job, which could affect the amount of people doing things such as expert roulette still. Exchanging gear back for tomestones means you still have to grind all the tomestones if you want all the jobs, but it allows you to switch mains if, for example, a static wants you to switch.

    If we just want all all jobs to be fully geared but faster, then just making it the same as grinding for one job is really the only way, however it's done. But it would affect the amount of people doing content such as expert roulette because their reason for doing it is significantly reduced once all jobs have their gear. I don't have much reason to do it since I don't use many of these other jobs, but it is the reason I give myself to do it and I would stop doing it if I had no jobs left to gear.
    I do agree that it CAN be finished faster by people joining the tier later, but I disagree with it adversely affecting Expert.

    All it would do is change the dynamic of Expert Roulette. Currently, every week Expert roulette kind of peters out towards the end of the week anyway as people finish their 450 tomestone grind for the week. Instead of having this happen weekly, you would get surges of weeks of players aggressively doing their grind and it slowly tapering off towards the end of the patch.

    Let's not forget that we're talking about a nearly 18,000 tome grind here if you are aiming for all jobs. Most average people are going to cap their tomes once, maybe twice a week if it was unrestricted. If someone is coming after week 8 and it takes them just a week or two to get their gear done, that's fine. You get tomestone gear in other to do other content, Expert is a means to an end, not an end goal. A large majority of people that complain about the rate at which they get tomestone gear are primarily interested in raiding, let's not forget that.

    If anything, I'd kind of prefer this system because after tomestone gear, SE could then utilize the current tier tomestones for content after week 8, or likewise they could move potion and food production mats to current tier tomestones instead of last tier tomestones, that way there isn't the egregious overlap of using last tier tomestones for so many things.
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