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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    That will depend on what status SE assigns the other NA worlds and whether they leave data center travel enabled to all worlds.

    The average number of active level 90 characters on each Dynamis world (11,600) already exceeds the average number of active level 90 characters on each JP world (10,750) per the latest LB census but that does little good if they're all using data center travel to play on the other data centers. Dynamis is already at a disadvantage with just 4 worlds so that halves the overall population compared to other data centers.

    Things would be a lot better on Dynamis if players with Dynamis characters stayed on Dynamis to do content with other Dynamis players instead of heading to Aether like so much of NA does.
    Never heard of this heading to Aether thing until now. Crystal fills all content, including EX trials and all raiding content. I've never once had a problem searching for anything to do while on the crystal DC, so sounds like it's a dynamis specific problem if people from that server move to Aether for whatever reason
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShikiRyougi View Post
    Never heard of this heading to Aether thing until now. Crystal fills all content, including EX trials and all raiding content. I've never once had a problem searching for anything to do while on the crystal DC, so sounds like it's a dynamis specific problem if people from that server move to Aether for whatever reason
    Lol. Look at the amount of PF's on primal and on Crystal, and go on Aether, and say that again.

    It's not a Dynamis thing only.

    At this time, there's 4 PF's for high end duty on primal.

    Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShikiRyougi View Post
    Never heard of this heading to Aether thing until now. Crystal fills all content, including EX trials and all raiding content. I've never once had a problem searching for anything to do while on the crystal DC, so sounds like it's a dynamis specific problem if people from that server move to Aether for whatever reason
    Crystal worlds have the largest populations in NA but even some Crystal players have noted it's harder to get groups on Crystal than on Aether, and Primal players are reporting the same issue for their worlds.

    But definitely the problem is worse for Dynamis being a data center that's only a year old and with only 4 worlds instead of 8. When the data center opened, there were not enough level cap players to get much in the way of level cap content done. Now that it does have sufficient level cap players, the habit of going to Aether is already in place. If we can't convince most of the Dynamis players to stay on Dynamis now that the population is large enough, then it's hard for Duty Finder queues to fill naturally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Crystal worlds have the largest populations in NA but even some Crystal players have noted it's harder to get groups on Crystal than on Aether, and Primal players are reporting the same issue for their worlds.

    But definitely the problem is worse for Dynamis being a data center that's only a year old and with only 4 worlds instead of 8. When the data center opened, there were not enough level cap players to get much in the way of level cap content done. Now that it does have sufficient level cap players, the habit of going to Aether is already in place. If we can't convince most of the Dynamis players to stay on Dynamis now that the population is large enough, then it's hard for Duty Finder queues to fill naturally.
    "reporting the same issue"

    it's not just an issue, it's a gamebreaking issue, 4 pf's at this hour on a weekend is not normal.

    The fact people like the person you quoted pretend that "everything is normal" and "it's only dynamis" is so wrong lol.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    I guarantee you Dynamis will have a population that far exceeds your expectations when the expansion drops. Sorry to burst your little bubble of doom and gloom.
    I can also spout nonsense as well. Dynamis is about to be a year old, and it's still the worst place to be as a player on NA. Objectively speaking, it's barely good enough to run roulettes. You know, you play here on that character. You call it doom and gloom, and I call realism.

    You can guarantee a percentage of those incoming players aren't going to lookup what server to join? That they won't see all the threads? That they won't see all the players telling them for the love of everything holy no? It's ignorance and naivete.

    The majority of the playerbase doesn't play on the server. I know I've been in several FCs where the majority are anywhere else. Don't kid yourself.

    Back when I played Wow, I was on a dead server. No matter what we tried, we couldn't revive it. Everyone kept saying that when x happened, it would fix everything and then nothing. The server stayed dead. And then Blizzard merged all the dead servers together, and guess what? My server was still dead. Because you see, the players all filled up the full realms until they locked and then moved to the high ones to make them full, etc. Now, granted, Wow has way too many realms for players. Honestly, Blizzard is wasting a ton of money on server maintenance if you ask me. But the point still remains. Expansions came and went. Nothing changed for the better. It only ever got worse. At best, your dead server is medium now instead of low. Or the real kiss of death the new players designation. Again, that's just Wow server culture, but the same naivete that everything will be better is still intact. At least the Blizzard devs found a fix. It was a dirty fix, but it worked if only on a casual end. We need cross DC queuing, and we needed it BEFORE we got cross DC travel.

    Cross DC travel is to blame solely. The pros outweigh the cons of it immensely. I can abandon my dead server and do content somewhere else, and all I lose it access to features I could do when I log off for the day. Seriously, whoever thought cross DC travel wouldn't obliterate PFs and DF queues is a moron.
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    Last edited by Ardeth; 10-29-2023 at 03:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    I can also spout nonsense as well. Dynamis is about to be a year old, and it's still the worst place to be as a player on NA. Objectively speaking, it's barely good enough to run roulettes. You know, you play here on that character. You call it doom and gloom, and I call realism.

    You can guarantee a percentage of those incoming players aren't going to lookup what server to join? That they won't see all the threads? That they won't see all the players telling them for the love of everything holy no? It's ignorance and naivete.

    The majority of the playerbase doesn't play on the server. I know I've been in several FCs where the majority are anywhere else. Don't kid yourself.
    Exactly lol, just the absolute comedy lmao, thinking that Xbox players wont research a little bit where to go first, and if they do start on Dynamis, they'll see like 5 people in the entirety or new gridania on marilith/maduin/hali and like 150+ bots lala bots flying around and will search the other dc's after seeing that or straight up quit because they'll think the game is completely barren of people and has completely died out, the same will happen with returners/new players on expansion release.

    That person is coping extremely hard.

    Also agree with you regarding your points about DC travel, this was bound to happen really, the idea in itself is terrible, and it's solely on them, not on the players.
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 10-29-2023 at 03:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Exactly lol, just the absolute comedy lmao, thinking that Xbox players wont research a little bit where to go first, and if they do start on Dynamis, they'll see like 5 people in the entirety or new gridania on marilith/maduin/hali and like 150+ bots lala bots flying around and will search the other dc's after seeing that or straight up quit because they'll think the game is completely barren of people and has completely died out, the same will happen with returners/new players on expansion release.

    That person is coping extremely hard.

    Also agree with you regarding your points about DC travel, this was bound to happen really, the idea in itself is terrible, and it's solely on them, not on the players.
    Players have exploited more for less. It's beyond ignorant that a multi-billion dollar company can't see the issue of it from a mile a way. I'm an ignorant fool, and I saw it.
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  8. #18
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    SE could just funnel the new Xbox players into Dynamis by locking all the other NA servers for character creation. And honestly, they probably should, both to give Dynamis more population and community growth and to save the rest of NA (especially Crystal, most of our servers should just be permanently marked congested at this point lol) from 3 hour plus Dawntrail launch login queues. Which was supposedly the reason the new DC was added in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    SE could just funnel the new Xbox players into Dynamis by locking all the other NA servers for character creation. And honestly, they probably should, both to give Dynamis more population and community growth and to save the rest of NA (especially Crystal, most of our servers should just be permanently marked congested at this point lol) from 3 hour plus Dawntrail launch login queues. Which was supposedly the reason the new DC was added in the first place.
    So force people to either join a completely dead DC (to then DC travel to aether anyway lmao) or not play at all

    That will go well I'm sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    So force people to either join a completely dead DC (to then DC travel to aether anyway lmao) or not play at all

    That will go well I'm sure
    Also again once the hype dies down, there will be a drop off. And if everyone knows Aether is the place, they will just transfer there after the dust settles. And Dynamis will still be dead. So the only solution we have is to be treated like overflow parking for an event. It is useful to have, but more often than not unused.
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