VIERA AND HROTHGAR COMPLAINT MEGATHREAD

[SpiralMask]

Still waiting on working hats.

I can excuse avoiding the massive backlog of retrofitting all previous headgear for viera/hrothgar whole there was ff16 and new expansion looming over the team, or saving it until fem!hroths are ingame to release a big pack of them, but not making fresh gear CURRENTLY BEING ADDED (or since their introduction) with their compatibility in mind makes no sense to me--it would just aerve to make the masdive backlog even more daunting to tackle.
Is there not already a workflow in place for viera and hrothgar asset editing?

[SpiralMask]

Pardon spelling, phone-posting

[TheMightyMollusk]

Part of the problem is that the original racial hairs for Viera and Hrothgar aren't separated into parts, to allow turning off the top part to wear a hat. You'd think editing that handful of hair styles would be pretty easy, but SE's weird about their priorities sometimes.

[Boblawblah]

After looking around the internet a bit, I was disappointed to see a mod that does hats for us, and it's SOOO good. Like, stitching and proper hole cuts, not just clipping. idc if SE says it's hard, we need unmodded hats!

[kyyninen_kirahvi]

I'm becoming more and more convinced the glasses thing is going to be the thing the devs will reference when people ask for viera and hroth headgear... "I thought this was what you wanted" situation again...

[Iscah]

I feel bad for bun boys, especially with their eye problem, one is bulging out of their skull and the other is sunken in (zoom in and zoom out probably).

Wasn't that from last time's presentation? The whole theme of this presentation was "here are some examples of cleaning up the model appearances from what we showed you last time". They don't need to go through every single model to demonstrate that, and Viera and Hrothgar do not need to be specially reported on at every step.

I'm becoming more and more convinced the glasses thing is going to be the thing the devs will reference when people ask for viera and hroth headgear... "I thought this was what you wanted" situation again...

No, other races want that as well. They're not doing it as some cheap excuse to avoid doing work that people actually want.

It's quite possible that they have a technical solution for it but still do not have one for whatever the blockage is with hair/hats.

[Denji]

After looking around the internet a bit, I was disappointed to see a mod that does hats for us, and it's SOOO good. Like, stitching and proper hole cuts, not just clipping. idc if SE says it's hard, we need unmodded hats!

and it (and other compatibility mods) are being done for free by people who have no real experience in dealing with this specific engine outside of what they learned on their own time.

it's ridiculous square tries to hide behind any excuse at this point.

[Nayukhuut]

Part of the problem is that the original racial hairs for Viera and Hrothgar aren't separated into parts, to allow turning off the top part to wear a hat. You'd think editing that handful of hair styles would be pretty easy, but SE's weird about their priorities sometimes.

Why would they even design them like that to begin with? 0_o

Is that they even the newer helmets are still denied to Viera? Hairstyle issues?

Heh, I had always assumed it was that they didn't want to deal with the ears clipping, but looking back I guess that doesn't make too much sense because they certainly do not mind every single other thing clipping in this game.

[Iscah]

Why would they even design them like that to begin with? 0_o

Is that they even the newer helmets are still denied to Viera? Hairstyle issues?

I don't know, but I assume there's some kind of technical issue with it now that isn't simple to overcome, or surely it would be easier to do so than have fans endlessly disgruntled over it.

And yes, whatever the cause, it's why new hats still don't work unless they fully hide the character's hair. Things that just hide the upper half won't work.

[Hatfright]

I don't know, but I assume there's some kind of technical issue with it now that isn't simple to overcome, or surely it would be easier to do so than have fans endlessly disgruntled over it.

And yes, whatever the cause, it's why new hats still don't work unless they fully hide the character's hair. Things that just hide the upper half won't work.

I'm sorry, but SE don't get to excuse themselves with "technical issues" on making viera and hrothgar hairstyles compatible with hats, when that same thing is done by 1 dedicated person. Just no.