EW may be one of the worst expansions for raiders but was one of the best for casuals

[Somnolence]

What is funny about Endwalker patch content is that people assumed that the resources were siphoned for FFXVI. Yet FFXVI is also quite average game that is already basically forgotten by mainstream, so if this is where the focus went then CBU3 going Ubisoft route and now just producing mediocre, safe, lowest common denominator gaming slop. This does not bode well for Dawntrail...

[Jojoya]

What is funny about Endwalker patch content is that people assumed that the resources were siphoned for FFXVI. Yet FFXVI is also quite average game that is already basically forgotten by mainstream, so if this is where the focus went then CBU3 going Ubisoft route and now just producing mediocre, safe, lowest common denominator gaming slop.

Isn't that where every publicly traded Triple A game company has gone with their content in the end? They need to please their investors. Investors like safe and profitable. Most people playing games are looking for relaxation and are more likely to get that from safe and predictable, and so that generates profits from those who aren't susceptible to lootbox gambling addiction.

If you want exciting and unexpected, you need to look to the indie developers working on passion projects and willing to risk loss. Every now and then the Triple A company might hit on the right game at the right time but it won't happen often because they're accountable to their investors.

[Catwho]

What is funny about Endwalker patch content is that people assumed that the resources were siphoned for FFXVI. Yet FFXVI is also quite average game that is already basically forgotten by mainstream, so if this is where the focus went then CBU3 going Ubisoft route and now just producing mediocre, safe, lowest common denominator gaming slop. This does not bode well for Dawntrail...

Forgotten by the mainstream, but absolutely a smash cult hit for the small dedicated fan base of us who loved the story and world building.

(I say as I'm in the middle of sewing Jote and [REDACTED] costumes so we can go to Anime Weekend Atlanta as walking spoilers.)

[Turtledeluxe]

Umm some of people's favorite savage fights ever, two Ultimates that were highly praised, numerous extremes hit and miss. Casual players got adventure plates and what else? You're confusing Casual players with solo players unless this is a shitpost. Casual players are stuck with the roulette, dungeons no one wants to do, and uhh..I'm not sure what else.

[Supersnow845]

Forgotten by the mainstream, but absolutely a smash cult hit for the small dedicated fan base of us who loved the story and world building.

(I say as I'm in the middle of sewing Jote and [REDACTED] costumes so we can go to Anime Weekend Atlanta as walking spoilers.)

Yeah I do think forgotten by the mainstream is a bit intense here, I have my problems with 16 but it also released in a stacked year and I overall loved my time with the game (at least right up till the very end), I even wove it into my 14 characters lore that they were due to a cosmic accident born in Valisthea and branded as a bearer before he managed to escape back to etheryis, he still carry’s that brand to this day

Umm some of people's favorite savage fights ever, two Ultimates that were highly praised, numerous extremes hit and miss. Casual players got adventure plates and what else? You're confusing Casual players with solo players unless this is a shitpost. Casual players are stuck with the roulette, dungeons no one wants to do, and uhh..I'm not sure what else.

I agree that casual players who like group content suffered as well but I think you are certainly overestimating how much people like panda’s savage fights, I doubt a single panda fight would make it into anyone’s top 5 if you have done most of the tiers up till this point, right now high end players are sufferings from whole having quite a lot of content this expansion people are sick of the boring 2 minute meta and the boring samey jobs

[Cach]

What is funny about Endwalker patch content is that people assumed that the resources were siphoned for FFXVI. Yet FFXVI is also quite average game that is already basically forgotten by mainstream, so if this is where the focus went then CBU3 going Ubisoft route and now just producing mediocre, safe, lowest common denominator gaming slop. This does not bode well for Dawntrail...

This one hurt because the people behind it had a great body of work to back them up, so it hit twice as badly.
I fully expected Starfield to be a turd, but 16 being what it is was the biggest gaming disappointment of the year.

Also Endwalker bad. Even the good ideas on paper (the concept of variant dungeons or Island Sanctuary) ended up so poorly implemented and burning themselves out in under a week, if not in a single day.

The only thing I kinda liked were the PVP and PVP Reward stuff.

[Turtledeluxe]

Yeah I do think forgotten by the mainstream is a bit intense here, I have my problems with 16 but it also released in a stacked year and I overall loved my time with the game (at least right up till the very end), I even wove it into my 14 characters lore that they were due to a cosmic accident born in Valisthea and branded as a bearer before he managed to escape back to etheryis, he still carry’s that brand to this day



I agree that casual players who like group content suffered as well but I think you are certainly overestimating how much people like panda’s savage fights, I doubt a single panda fight would make it into anyone’s top 5 if you have done most of the tiers up till this point, right now high end players are sufferings from whole having quite a lot of content this expansion people are sick of the boring 2 minute meta and the boring samey jobs

The two minute meta makes everything feel like shit and yes I am perhaps overstating the savages. They're hit and miss like the extremes. Also yes job Design is currently in shambles depending on your class.

[TaleraRistain]

The difference is there is actively zero reward for not using the discord, why waste your own time figuring out the formula and working through it when it provides you with zero rewards (and hurts you if you figure out the formula wrong)

I dunno, to actually play the game and engage with the systems? It's the same thing with people who just wait for others to put macros out for new crafts. You can't complain something is boring or mindless if you take all the challenge out of doing it.

[Volgia]

This one hurt because the people behind it had a great body of work to back them up, so it hit twice as badly.
I fully expected Starfield to be a turd, but 16 being what it is was the biggest gaming disappointment of the year.

Also Endwalker bad. Even the good ideas on paper (the concept of variant dungeons or Island Sanctuary) ended up so poorly implemented and burning themselves out in under a week, if not in a single day.

The only thing I kinda liked were the PVP and PVP Reward stuff.

The only hopium I have rn is the 7th remake part 2 / sequel, cuz FF16 was so mid. So frigging mid.
A lot of people seem to be blaming FF16 and the pandemic for Endwalker cutting corners left and right, and I guess my only fear is that they figure that "this works" and keep doing this from Dawntrail on.

[Atelier-Bagur]

The only hopium I have rn is the 7th remake part 2 / sequel, cuz FF16 was so mid. So frigging mid.
A lot of people seem to be blaming FF16 and the pandemic for Endwalker cutting corners left and right, and I guess my only fear is that they figure that "this works" and keep doing this from Dawntrail on.

I cant even be that excited for FFVII rebirth because its not anything new. Its just a part of remake of the original FFVII. So I cant with a conscious give it a pass.

If I need to be impresser by current SE, I need something fresh and new that turns out to be an absolute banger of a game and sadly FFXVI didnt cut it for me.