Revelations from Patch 6.5: "Growing Light", Part 1

[Denishia]

Level 19 IS

I also agree this was the first misstep, whereas I deeply enjoyed the previous two and the first one with the admiral felt logical and rewarding. All of the Island Sanctuary glams have been a mix of hit and miss for me- the previous tropical look did nothing. This one, with its most generic Margaritaville Dad look, was another miss but also because I play a female character and this was a set that leaned to fulfilling people who wanted more 'masculine'. What I do appreciate it that it finally gives a plain polo shirt for those that want to recreate The Twinning meme.

I like the Loporrits- not my fav but I think they are maligned to an overblown extent. Except Puddingway. He does not land for me. The mammets are ..meh. The final architectural look while heavy on the blue crystals does add back in the greenery and greenhouse vibes, and thankfully the designs stay in the Labyrinthos instead of Amaurotine/Elpis end of the spectrum.

[Iscah]

A detour into glamour

All of the Island Sanctuary glams have been a mix of hit and miss for me- the previous tropical look did nothing. This one, with its most generic Margaritaville Dad look, was another miss but also because I play a female character and this was a set that leaned to fulfilling people who wanted more 'masculine'.

I just feel like it's really unfortunate if that's what people are after when they ask for "masculine" clothing in the game. It just feels wrong to me - and yes I know glamour is a mixed bag and the technology level is wherever they feel like setting it today, but it's still.... it feels like a non-outfit. I couldn't imagine using it for any of my male characters, even though I do use some of the other more modern (but detailed) outfits with them.

(Excuse my self-promotion while I link to my Eorzea Collection profile.)

I think there are a lot of things in the game that already look really good on male characters, and I've been trying to work through posting more healer/mage outfits since people keep overstating the lack of variety there. But then seeing it as masculine clothing also means recognising and appreciating historical styles and outfits that look flattering on male characters without being modern menswear.

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Separately, on the Loporrits being over-maligned, I would like them better if they were allowed to simply exist as characters who look cute, rather than actively trying to act cute all the time. It turns them into being irritating. It also doesn't help when there are so many identical characters and they all behave similarly, so they don't really build their own identities.

[Denishia]

Re glamour: I would love for two things - more historical fashion, especially returning to the Renaissance vibe, and to get something with some honest-to-god slashing and puffed sleeves because the Voeburtine gear was a balm on my soul but too little and not enough. Ishgard drives me crazy because there's one female Burgundian hennin with a 'fantasy quasi mishmash of a hoppenlande gown going into an attempt at Tudor', which works fine with the Tudor vibes of a low budget tv show coat for the guys - but then the other fancy dress options are Pure fake Victorian visual kei which I expect from generic Japanese fantasy media. But then there's barely any of that. The Hraesvelgr doublet helped a smidge, but it is underrepresented as a whole.

The other problem when I first tried to make glams is that until recently there was virtually nothing for a PLAIN shirt (or skirt of mid or calf-length). The Extreme Survival Shirt was the closest thing to a no-frills, no extra belts and pouches plain shirt, and that sat horribly on most models. For longer sleeves the Anemos Suspenders was the best you could get if the undyeable belt and awkward front closure and silver brooch of the Spring Shirt didn't work.

Ironically having two dye channels should open up more the early base ARR chest pieces to work for simple, no-frills glamour.