EW may be one of the worst expansions for raiders but was one of the best for casuals

[sagacious]

I tried doing Island Sanctuary, it made me frustrated with how it was aggressively wasting my time, that I gave up on it. I think it would have been a much better experience if you could actually cooperate with friends/FC/whatever on making the island a cool place, furthermore there's no good reason to not let crafting or gathering be a part of it. The island is so restrictive in what you can build, and capturing animals feels like the game is mocking you.

You are going part of the community who do a facepalm when you realize there's a new lottery system built in the level 20 of the island. The new island level 20 buildings are breathtaking and more unique furnishings are being added. Will I get a, "I was wrong post from you?"

[Supersnow845]

I tried doing Island Sanctuary, it made me frustrated with how it was aggressively wasting my time, that I gave up on it. I think it would have been a much better experience if you could actually cooperate with friends/FC/whatever on making the island a cool place, furthermore there's no good reason to not let crafting or gathering be a part of it. The island is so restrictive in what you can build, and capturing animals feels like the game is mocking you.

You are going part of the community who do a facepalm when you realize there's a new lottery system built in the level 20 of the island. The new island level 20 buildings are breathtaking and more unique furnishings are being added. Will I get a, "I was wrong post from you?"

I dragged myself through the island sanctuary to level 12 specifically for one speedo that is the only speedo in the game with no attachments in the game

I promised I would push it to 20 but I just can’t do it, I hate it so much, if I want my time wasted I’d rather it be actively wasted rather than passively wasted like IS does

[Atelier-Bagur]

I dragged myself through the island sanctuary to level 12 specifically for one speedo that is the only speedo in the game with no attachments in the game

I promised I would push it to 20 but I just can’t do it, I hate it so much, if I want my time wasted I’d rather it be actively wasted rather than passively wasted like IS does

Eh...you'll be back for it way later down the road, once you start to realize some of the mounts and glams you get from it. I'm not defending it though, the workshop spreadsheet mechanic is such a piece of crap activity and I dont care that it takes a minute or two to get it all setup for each week. Its so lazy, uninspired and boring way to rank up the content. Why is progression tied to it so hard? What kind of life simulator "game" did the devs actually play that initially inspired them making IS. Its certainly not Animal Crossing and its CERTAINLY not Stardew Valley.

[Supersnow845]

Eh...you'll be back for it way later down the road, once you start to realize some of the mounts and glams you get from it. I'm not defending it though, the workshop spreadsheet mechanic is such a piece of crap activity and I dont care that it takes a minute or two to get it all setup for each week. Its so lazy, uninspired and boring way to rank up the content. Why is progression tied to it so hard? What kind of life simulator "game" did the devs actually play that initially inspired them making IS. Its certainly not Animal Crossing and its CERTAINLY not Stardew Valley.

I mean I know the full set of glams and mounts you can get from the IS and I really don’t think I’ll be back, literally the only thing I wanted was the speedo

I don’t care about glams or mounts for the sake of it, I’ve played since legacy and I think I have like 25 mounts total, 3/5 of which are basically the extreme mounts you can unsync

[Atelier-Bagur]

I mean I know the full set of glams and mounts you can get from the IS and I really don’t think I’ll be back, literally the only thing I wanted was the speedo

I don’t care about glams or mounts for the sake of it, I’ve played since legacy and I think I have like 25 mounts total, 3/5 of which are basically the extreme mounts you can unsync

Fair. Sucks for me for being a stupid semi-completionist so I have no choice but to chug through it. At least the new set looks extremely good for my white mage.

[Jojoya]

Fair. Sucks for me for being a stupid semi-completionist so I have no choice but to chug through it. At least the new set looks extremely good for my white mage.

Use it as something to focus on to escape the completionism habit?

That happened for me while I was still playing WoW. There was a day I asked myself why I was spending so much effort doing things I didn't find that interesting (think it was pet battles) just to collect more items that I was going to ignore once I had them.

So I stopped. Every time I said to myself "I should go do this thing to collect this item", I asked myself "but will I use it?" Most of the time, the answer was "no" and I would go do something else instead.

It can take a while to break the habit but once it's done, you feel so much better. You spend less time being unhappy due to "should"s and "ought to"s and more time enjoying a game. Sometimes the latter may mean enjoying a different game for a while. Or it may mean quitting the game completely if all you were doing was collecting items you didn't care about for the sake of the collecting because you had lost interest in the other content.

You can always return to the game later to pick up where you left off (assuming the game servers aren't shut down in the interim). You can never get back time lost (or money spent) doing things you didn't enjoy.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Fair. Sucks for me for being a stupid semi-completionist so I have no choice but to chug through it. At least the new set looks extremely good for my white mage.

A bit unrelated to the thread: I think the R20 cowrie glam looks more fitting for a combat medic WHM & is more WHM-y than all WHM artifact gears combined except the lv50 one lol.

Finally one of the WHM-esque glam that I can show off my lower half body xD

[Pip_Chick]

Adventurer Plates is the best thing ever, we got a lot of dope casual glams thanks to Island Sanctuary, Data Center travel allowed people to go wherever the fuck they want (and made Balmung be what it is today), free trial up to Stormblood, a lot of the old fights and dungeons were rewamped and are actually good now and on top of that the WoW exodus brought a lot of new players to the game.

As a slightly more invested casual (Midcasual?), I hardly disagree. There aren't a lot of things to do and you get bored easily. I would have liked something like Ishgard/Doman restoration so I could engage with something in between roulettes or just give me something that I could do.

This mode of expansion has been great for the people who are here only for the Story and who want to play for only a week/ a week and a half, then unsub and go do other stuff. Not for the people who want to play an MMO.

[TaleraRistain]

Eh...you'll be back for it way later down the road, once you start to realize some of the mounts and glams you get from it. I'm not defending it though, the workshop spreadsheet mechanic is such a piece of crap activity and I dont care that it takes a minute or two to get it all setup for each week. Its so lazy, uninspired and boring way to rank up the content. Why is progression tied to it so hard? What kind of life simulator "game" did the devs actually play that initially inspired them making IS. Its certainly not Animal Crossing and its CERTAINLY not Stardew Valley.

I personally really enjoy Island Sanctuary. I log in every day and calculate what I need to make that day to maximize profits. I know the Discord and the Reddit are there and I use them to check my notes sometimes, in a "Hmm, they say this so let me follow the logic and figure out why". People can certainly play IS like a spreadsheet simulator but I would argue it's going to be boring if you take all the challenge out like that. I think that's a problem in general that a lot of people have in XIV. They optimize all the fun out of it.

[Absurdity]

I feel like the word "casual player" keeps devolving with every year. It went from "player who doesn't invest too much time into a game" (actually saying nothing about said player's skill level, just the amount of time invested) to "People who are bad at the game" to then sometimes just flat out "People who can't be bothered to learn the game" (but somehow still play 6 hours every day) to now just "People who don't actually want to play a game".
Can we please just decide on a consistent definition already?

I personally really enjoy Island Sanctuary. I log in every day and calculate what I need to make that day to maximize profits. I know the Discord and the Reddit are there and I use them to check my notes sometimes, in a "Hmm, they say this so let me follow the logic and figure out why". People can certainly play IS like a spreadsheet simulator but I would argue it's going to be boring if you take all the challenge out like that. I think that's a problem in general that a lot of people have in XIV. They optimize all the fun out of it.

I used to do that for the first few weeks, but why exactly would I make my IS workshop gains purposely worse when it also costs me less time than staring at the cryptic popularity and demand values in-game? I don't find staring at menus particularly engaging.