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    Just gonna throw out there that if people can't agree that the deliberate extermination of all life on a planet is genocide/omnicide then there really isn't any room for a conversation. That's effectively the foundation of the entire discussion. Without that terminology understood we have no common ground at least imo. That goes for both the sundering and the rejoinings. Both are genocide/omnicide as both are the complete extermination of all cultures and living things on a world. the idea that we can't agree on that is mind boggling to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    The issue isn't just the external context of genocide. It's also just reductive. Is what happened with Zodiark genocide or is it a sacrifice? It's the way things are being framed that just isn't relevant or necessary. I'm not sure why people have a hard time admitting they just want to use an inflammatory word to get attention and or falsely inflate the importance of their rhetoric.
    If by "what happened with Zodiark" you mean the initial summoning of him, then no I wouldn't call that genocide. Those were volunteers. Besides, until the WoL/Fandanial killed Zodiark, all of those people were actually still alive within him.
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    Hmm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Just gonna throw out there that if people can't agree that the deliberate extermination of all life on a planet is genocide/omnicide then there really isn't any room for a conversation. That's effectively the foundation of the entire discussion. Without that terminology understood we have no common ground at least imo. That goes for both the sundering and the rejoinings. Both are genocide/omnicide as both are the complete extermination of all cultures and living things on a world. the idea that we can't agree on that is mind boggling to me.
    I'm not sure what part of "Venat's actions resulted in the death of all life on Etheriys" needs a specific tag to be understood or prohibits conversation, but if you want to hold on to the term to the extent that you'll pretend as if we have nothing to agree on, then that's your rather odd choice to make.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turtledeluxe View Post
    they had no other option in the face of a primal who was demanding more sacrifices and tempering.

    Also per the lore Venat didn't even know exactly what her attack would render in great specificity and it didn't kill everyone.
    ...did... did you play the game at all, or...?
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    Last edited by Lunaxia; 10-16-2023 at 10:38 AM.