What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Xirean]

I think again, you're self indulging because you are egotistically dismissing what happened as "genocide" and you could've done (as in written) so much better. OK

The sundering is the literal textbook definition of genocide.

[Turtledeluxe]

The sundering is the literal textbook definition of genocide.

I never said it wasn't. But you're not considering that it was genocide either way and at least hers left some room for an untempered. future. You're basically a Zodiark stan so, I don't know. I'm sorry the story didn't go in that direction. But for the record I'm glad it didn't. It's an MMOROG with ten hands on the story-- to be blunt things won't always make total sense and your expectations are insanely bloated. If Venat campaigned against Hermes it may seem logical yes, but it's messy storytelling that distracts from what the game is (a game about you and your time).

And despite arguments to the contrary, Elidibus straight up told us you cannot change fate. So although it seems like everyone had choices as with every single Final Fantasy there was a grand overarching fate that was bound to happen. It is cliche but that was the whole point..to stand against fate.

And yes, you can scream into the void until your lungs are dry that the story isn't constrained by the genre and the format except it is. Most stories are. There's so many factors at play-- a 10 year running MMO with different teams and different writers. Again we are lucky the plot makes what sense it does make.

[Theodric]

Ah, I had a hunch that was your angle in terms of attempting to present false insinuations. It's good to see confirmation.

Someone desiring equal accountability for the protagonists and antagonists hardly equals 'stanning'. Numerous sources have been provided to you outlining the inconsistencies in the morality and world building of the setting. That - and the numerous retcons - is why there is so much backlash towards Endwalker throughout this thread.

Tempering was not presented as the problem that Venat was concerned with. In addition to it not amounting to an awful lot, it was localised to the Convocation. It is an aetheric problem with an aetheric solution. It could also be avoided entirely had she given them enough information about Meteion beforehand to devise a better solution before all available sources of aether on the star - other than their own bodies - were atrophied. Plus she knew how to apply a ward against aetheric corruption on top of it. At no point in the story, in any supplementary materials or in interviews, is tempering once presented as the issue. It is solely presented in terms of her fear of them becoming like the Nibirun and their inability to directly wield dynamis.

The development team likes to brag to the high heavens about its story as does large swathes of the community - if it doesn't hold up under the most basic amount of scrutiny then it is liable to be called out for that.

[Absimiliard]

And despite arguments to the contrary, Elidibus straight up told us you cannot change fate.

I recommend you go back and watch that scene again. You're omitting a lot of context to support your point.

[Turtledeluxe]

I recommend you go back and watch that scene again. You're omitting a lot of context to support your point.

"Even if you interact with others, you cannot affect meaningful change."

[Absimiliard]

"Even if you interact with others, you cannot affect meaningful change."

Once again omitting surrounding context.