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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    he lacked faith in her people.
    Obviously you missed the key moments of Endwalker while dissecting an MMORPG for what you would prefer the story to be because yes...the plot concedes that Venat has a bit of a hangup and "cannot return to the star as long as they need help". Part of what makes her final battle so cathartic is that she's free of that obligation she's been feeling. It's not a lack of faith-- she tells you in the fourth wall break conversation (which is an incredible scene) her real reasons for wanting to live and it's not really just because people need help. That's why one of the options is to call back to her by name and one is about finding out how to walk. Because part of her story is Venat the traveler and the other part is her being a savior figure for humanity. You're all also calling out her choices as though she doesn't even talk about them or her reasoning. Play the trial again or something, idk. She knows what the sundering has wrought and she's not exactly thrilled, she wasn't even that optimistic about the odds and was keeping the Ascians basically at bay throughout the expansions. She also admits to failure "time and time again". Would it be nice if she didn't have to resort to sundering...possibly? That's not the story of the game.

    You saying she could've done better or could've done things differently is just your opinion, and that's fine. It just doesn't make the story better-- in fact it makes it worse. I think again, you're self indulging because you are egotistically dismissing what happened as "genocide" and you could've done (as in written) so much better. OK

    In fact I would go even farther and say, Venat appealing to the Convocation is dumb and robs the entire story of the major theme of growth. Yes, the sundering sucks and rendered humanity into imperfect and trivial beings. But it also taught them to contend with the Final Days and defeat the threat-- a problem caused by the Ancients. You seem to wish it somehow ended up that they solved their own problem-- that just sounds boring and unsurprising.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xirean View Post
    Random topic change but I want people's thoughts. Is the fight against Zeromus a better fight then against Zodiark?
    I think they're the same to be honest. Trials are generally gauged in difficulty by how they feel day one. People learn the fight and then it seems easy. So people will be biased and tell you Zeromus is better because by now, Zodiark feels more stale and predictable.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 10-15-2023 at 03:03 PM.