Alliance Raid Now iLvl Locked, Why??

[Toutatis]

It is a fix for lower levels, any level 70 crafted gear would take the person in that situation over the requirement. Any Artifact gear would as well, so the only requirement for level 100 characters in Dawntrail is they need to have at least the free artifact gear.

not quite. You can’t access artifact gear if you haven’t reached the end of MSQ.

Even then, the required gear level is for the first alliance raid at that level, so there would be no requirement on level 100 till the new alliance raid comes out in 7.1 and long after crafted has dropped off and more gear above the required level has dropped from dungeons.

We will see but atm it is based solely on job level. Also it doesn’t solve the issue of people who will reach lvl 100 but haven’t finished MSQ and can’t access artifact gear. I do a lot of pvp and over level very fast. The first tier of crafted gear is also always very expensive for a long while after the first raid is released.

None of this gear is hard to get and you should be gearing as you go anyway.

I shouldn’t need lvl 90 gear to do lvl 60 something content. There’s no point to it and it gets synched down in instanced content. Part of the fun is also to use the gear that gets unlocked as you progress. You are just trying to defend a very poor implementation of the new gear requirements for ARs.

It’s kind of absurd that I can’t queue for ARs on a lvl 90 character in iLvl 530 that has all lvl 80 and below ARs unlocked but hasn’t done EW (I made that character to PVP and run Deep Dungeons with friends) but I can pick up a lvl 50 SAM and run CT ad nauseam.

[VerdeLuck]

not quite. You can’t access artifact gear if you haven’t reached the end of MSQ.

We will see but atm it is based solely on job level. Also it doesn’t solve the issue of people who will reach lvl 100 but haven’t finished MSQ and can’t access artifact gear. I do a lot of pvp and over level very fast. The first tier of crafted gear is also always very expensive for a long while after the first raid is released.

I shouldn’t need lvl 90 gear to do lvl 60 something content. There’s no point to it. Part of the fun is also to use the gear that gets unlocked as you progress. You are just trying to defend a very poor implementation of the new gear requirements for ARs.

There is going to be no requirement at 100 until an alliance raid comes out in 7.1. Until then it's going to stay at 565 same as 90.
And you shouldn't be trying to force doing level 60 content at 90 anyway, that's the entire point of it. You're just upset that your favorite chese strat to force easy duties at the cost of 4 hour long queues for nier is gone.
None of these requirements are hard to fulfil, and the people who overlevel significantly from where they are in the MSQ is a strange but rare phenomenon being blown out of porportion on the forums and on reddit like it's a common occurence. Marketboard gear is cheap and easily satisfies the requirements right now.

You know what was a way more common occurence? having multiple hour long queues to do the Ivalice and Nier raids because everyone would abuse the system to not fill them out with their roulettes.

[Toutatis]

And you shouldn't be trying to force doing level 60 content at 90 anyway, that's the entire point of it. You're just upset that your favorite chese strat to force easy duties at the cost of 4 hour long queues for nier is gone. None of these requirements are hard to fulfil, and the people who overlevel significantly from where they are in the MSQ is a strange but rare phenomenon being blown out of porportion on the forums and on reddit like it's a common occurence. Marketboard gear is cheap and easily satisfies the requirements right now.

I never levelled cheesed anything so stop making baseless assumptions. On the contrary, and as edited above I have all raids unlocked save the EW raids which I can’t access anyway on a lvl 90 char (plus I already have 3 chars with all jobs at 90 and everything unlocked but that char was made to play on a new EU server with friends. And over levelling is very common. It’s even impossible to avoid nowadays, in particular on the new servers. Also some people spend a lot of time pvping and doing content other than MSQ which levels you pretty fast. Marketboard gear will not be cheap for a long while after 7.0. Requiring useless MB gear is poor implementation.

[wereotter]

not quite. You can’t access artifact gear if you haven’t reached the end of MSQ.

Currently replaying the story, and this is incorrect, except for Shadowbringers and Endwalker where artifact gear is tied to story progression.

The level 50, 60, and 70 artifact gear are all quest rewards for completing the capstone quest. The only block is some quests might require you to go to zones you haven't yet reached.

[Toutatis]

Currently replaying the story, and this is incorrect, except for Shadowbringers and Endwalker where artifact gear is tied to story progression.

The level 50, 60, and 70 artifact gear are all quest rewards for completing the capstone quest. The only block is some quests might require you to go to zones you haven't yet reached.

you are correct on Idyllshire though that is still quite far in the expansion. For Stormblood, well you have to complete the last quest of the expansion called Stormblood to get iLvl 400 gear. You can’t access it as soon as you get to Raghl’s Reach or even Kugane unless it’s a very recent change (did it again at the beginning of this year).

Anyway, it’s not the best route but if they are going to start tying things strictly on job level without regard for story progress they may as well add the tome gear to a vendor in the 3 main cities.

[Baxcel]

you are correct on Idyllshire though that is still quite far in the expansion. For Stormblood, well you have to complete the last quest of the expansion called Stormblood to get iLvl 400 gear. You can’t access it as soon as you get to Raghl’s Reach or even Kugane unless it’s a very recent change (did it again at the beginning of this year).

Anyway, it’s not the best route but if they are going to start tying things strictly on job level without regard for story progress they may as well add the tome gear to a vendor in the 3 main cities.

He's talking about the gear you get from doing your job story quests.. not the poetic gear

[wereotter]

you are correct on Idyllshire though that is still quite far in the expansion. For Stormblood, well you have to complete the last quest of the expansion called Stormblood to get iLvl 400 gear. You can’t access it as soon as you get to Raghl’s Reach or even Kugane unless it’s a very recent change (did it again at the beginning of this year).

Anyway, it’s not the best route but if they are going to start tying things strictly on job level without regard for story progress they may as well add the tome gear to a vendor in the 3 main cities.

The tomestone gear is different from the artifact gear, so maybe mistyped? Artifact gear is the job-specific gear you used to get from the capstone job quest for the expansion, until Shadowbringers when they added in role quests instead. Level 60 black mage gear only needs you to be able to access Western Coerthas, but I think some of the other jobs need you to be able to get to other zones, like dark knight I think needs you to be able to get to Churning Mists.

But correct about the story. Even though you can access Idyllshire before the final quest of the base expansion, the vendor isn't selling things till then. Same with Revenant's Toll. You can ride there on a chocobo right from the start of the game, but they won't sell you anything even if you could get poetics.

[Toutatis]

The tomestone gear is different from the artifact gear, so maybe mistyped? Artifact gear is the job-specific gear you used to get from the capstone job quest for the expansion, until Shadowbringers when they added in role quests instead. Level 60 black mage gear only needs you to be able to access Western Coerthas, but I think some of the other jobs need you to be able to get to other zones, like dark knight I think needs you to be able to get to Churning Mists.

Yup, I was talking about tome gear as I was more thinking about the higher lvl gear. Also for Stormblood gear the job gear is iLvl 290 while the requirement for the lvl 70 AR is 305.

[wereotter]

Yup, I was talking about tome gear as I was more thinking about the higher lvl gear. Also for Stormblood gear the job gear is iLvl 290 while the requirement for the lvl 70 AR is 305.

Right, though even with 290 on your left side, it's not hard from there to get to 305

[Atelier-Bagur]

not quite. You can’t access artifact gear if you haven’t reached the end of MSQ.

We will see but atm it is based solely on job level. Also it doesn’t solve the issue of people who will reach lvl 100 but haven’t finished MSQ and can’t access artifact gear. I do a lot of pvp and over level very fast. The first tier of crafted gear is also always very expensive for a long while after the first raid is released.

People like yourself saying that you pvp, seriously makes me wish SE continued with giving useful pvp gear as a nice alternative for upgrading your characters while you're leveling. The pvp gear with attributes goes as far as lv.60 and everything else they added afterwards were just lv.1 cosmetic sets. If they continued by introducing lv.70/80/90 sets that you purchase from Wolf Marks in PvP, that would incentivize newer players to seek out pvp in order to get the equipment they need for the required Alliance Roulette ilv.

And honestly that would help solve that issue by presenting rewards on an extra piece of content.