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    Quote Originally Posted by ChonkGoblinSuprem View Post
    What is the difference? This seems like a semantic quibble at best.
    The quick and dirty summary would be that non-binary is a mindset/identity while androgyny is generally an aesthetic. For example, in many fantasy fictions, elves are described as being physically androgynous relative to humans, which means that there's less of a difference between male and female bodies. But most of the elves in these universes still identify as being male and female, meaning they're not non-binary. Conversely, a big muscular bearded Roe with male primary and secondary sexual characteristics doesn't innately have what most people would consider an androgynous aesthetic, but that Roe can identify as non-binary.

    In the lore of Viera, they all actually start out sexless, and when they come of age they choose which of the two sexes their bodies become. Due to this and other factors I personally wouldn't describe male Viera as literally being androgynous, but they do have a less masculine physical aesthetic compared to some of the other male bodies that are playable in the game, so I get why someone would see them that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    The quick and dirty summary would be that non-binary is a mindset/identity while androgyny is generally an aesthetic. For example, in many fantasy fictions, elves are described as being physically androgynous relative to humans, which means that there's less of a difference between male and female bodies. But most of the elves in these universes still identify as being male and female, meaning they're not non-binary. Conversely, a big muscular bearded Roe with male primary and secondary sexual characteristics doesn't innately have what most people would consider an androgynous aesthetic, but that Roe can identify as non-binary.

    In the lore of Viera, they all actually start out sexless, and when they come of age they choose which of the two sexes their bodies become. Due to this and other factors I personally wouldn't describe male Viera as literally being androgynous, but they do have a less masculine physical aesthetic compared to some of the other male bodies that are playable in the game, so I get why someone would see them that way.
    Okay so why do we need a separate non-binary race if non-binary means anyone can identify as anything regardless of the aesthetic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChonkGoblinSuprem View Post
    Okay so why do we need a separate non-binary race if non-binary means anyone can identify as anything regardless of the aesthetic?
    If you scroll to the top of the page you'll see that I already left my thoughts on that in an earlier post
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