Dawntrail Wishlist top 3 desired healer additions

[ty_taurus]

I'm a nearly lone voice (a few others on rare occasion have joined me) here in thinking we should do both

I have stated multiple times in multiple places that the best course of action is to approach all angles, not just one. Start with a reboot to the healer role designed to have moments of glory in their gameplay in all forms of content, let players get comfortable with those changes, then gradually introduce more and more frequent instances of damage across all difficulty modes until we find a sweet spot that feels comfortable for the average player while offering more for the experienced healer. And now we have variant dungeons which are a great space to experiment with that kind of dungeon boss difficulty.

[Connor]

I have stated multiple times in multiple places that the best course of action is to approach all angles, not just one. Start with a reboot to the healer role designed to have moments of glory in their gameplay in all forms of content, let players get comfortable with those changes, then gradually introduce more and more frequent instances of damage across all difficulty modes until we find a sweet spot that feels comfortable for the average player while offering more for the experienced healer. And now we have variant dungeons which are a great space to experiment with that kind of dungeon boss difficulty.

I mean, it’s probably just me, but I don’t even think they necessarily need to keep ‘experimental’ designs specifically in ‘side-content’ like they do now. Like if they had some cool new idea for some mechanic healers could do (idk what lol), I think they could even do it in like, an expert dungeon or normal raid level. I feel like whenever they do want to push new concepts, they tend to limit them to those side-contents like Bozja or Variant. Not that there’s any issue with those, but since there’s either less engagement (marginally) or things confounding the healer’s abilities (i.e all those weird Bozja buffs lol), I feel like they get the wrong idea and just assume because people aren’t praising it they either don’t like it or don’t care.

I feel like they should do even more things like Harrowing Hell or Zeromus / TGC 1-HP Doom in normal content, and not worry so much about ‘is this too difficult’, since the only way healers are going to be able to adapt to new healing mechanics is by pushing themselves to experience current ones. And, I get that it’s not acceptable in the devs eyes, but if they did make a mechanic that ended up objectively too difficult for normal content (like 1-HP doom with a 90% healing down debuff during a party spread mechanic or something), it can always be adjusted later if necessary.

Personally I think the fight where they do more ‘experimental’ or ‘unique’ mechanics tend to be the most enjoyable ones, so I’d enjoy seeing them be more creative even with lower-end content

[Zolvolt]

My wish list is 80+% of spells cast in any fight should not be the same spell. (glare, malefic, broil, [sage spell here]
My wish list is lower the size of the kitchen sink.
my wish list is bring shield ast back.
my wish list is remove astrodyne.
My wishlist is remove Energy Drain.

[TheDustyOne]

My wishlist is remove Energy Drain.

I was with you until this.

Just play SGE instead.

[ty_taurus]

I was with you until this.

Just play SGE instead.

Energy Drain, the thing people want removed when its here and returned when its gone.

[TheDustyOne]

And each time it's removed, we rediscover just how empty Scholar feels without it.

(Ironic that my theorycraft removed it, but I still had it in spirit with an MP drain skill)

[ForsakenRoe]

Energy Drain's issue is that without it, you're either 100% overhealing with your Aetherflow, or overwriting stacks, both of which feel bad. SGE gets around this slightly by tying it's MP economy to it. All we would need is for ED to be replaced by an equally spammable, but not damage related, skill. I'd go with a singletarget Shielding OGCD, that applies Galvanize (can't stack with Adlo), meaning it can be spread via Deploy for a fully OGCD Adlo-Deploy combo. Some would complain that 'well now I can't do more damage by being better than other people' though

[GrimGale]

You dont have to remove Energy Drain. What you can do is remove its damage and leave it as simply an extra MP regen tool to turn those stacks into MP. Now it no longer conflicts with DPS and this making Dissipation into an actual healing tool.

Of course that makes Scholar less clunky but also less interesting as there is no longer that incredibly small risk/reward gameplay that the job still has.

[ty_taurus]

Energy Drain's issue is that without it, you're either 100% overhealing with your Aetherflow, or overwriting stacks, both of which feel bad. SGE gets around this slightly by tying its MP economy to it. All we would need is for ED to be replaced by an equally spammable, but not damage related, skill. I'd go with a singletarget Shielding OGCD, that applies Galvanize (can't stack with Adlo), meaning it can be spread via Deploy for a fully OGCD Adlo-Deploy combo. Some would complain that 'well now I can't do more damage by being better than other people' though

Thats not better, though. Dumping more Drupcholes on myself to restore MP more frequently than I actually heal with Addersgall feels like poo poo bananas. A job that feels compelled to needlessly overheal because fights can’t keep up with how rapidly Addersgall generates? Joy!

If nothing else, moving MP management somewhere else would be a big improvement.

You dont have to remove Energy Drain. What you can do is remove its damage and leave it as simply an extra MP regen tool to turn those stacks into MP. Now it no longer conflicts with DPS and this making Dissipation into an actual healing tool.

Of course that makes Scholar less clunky but also less interesting as there is no longer that incredibly small risk/reward gameplay that the job still has.

So which is it? Do we want more decision-making and choice-based gameplay on healers? Or are we trying to purge it from existence? Having the ability to spend more MP to gain more damage out of Miasma II and Energy Drain was a really interesting and compelling aspect of choice for Scholar to make during Stormblood. Rather than suggest reverting changes to restore that unique interaction that gave Scholar the ability to feel adequately rewarded for playing more aggressively with their resources, you just want to drop the baby in the river and walk away? Make it make sense to me. What do we want? Choices, or linear rotations?

[Nizzi]

I hope everyone who wants to remove Energy Drain never ever gets more than their 1 button spam healers until the day this game dies