Players are already lowering their bar for Downtrail

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who even watches zepla, lmao

the expectations should be the same as for every expansion, as they always follow the same formula

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who even watches zepla, lmao

the expectations should be the same as for every expansion, as they always follow the same formula

Good point. I have no clue who would actually waste their time watching her. She says nothing of value and only reacts depending on the situation that will best line her pockets. Get ready for her to praise FFXIV and Dawntrail as the best things in gaming history very soon.

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The issue with comments like this is that they're Chicken Little "the sky is falling" that clashes with reality. (strawman) There was an anomalous spike in subs at the end of ShB/beginning of EW because of the infamous "WoW exodus", but given how different the two games are, reasonable people never expected that spike to last, nor have I heard anyone legitimately claim they're assuming anywhere near "everyone" from that spike will return with the start of DT. (strawman, deflection) Remove the spike from consideration and what you see in EW is a continuation of the same trend that has existed for every single expansion starting from ARR, which is a slow but steady growth in subs and active players. (incorrect) To make a valid comparison, look at the data from similar points in an xpac (for example, compare the month 6.4 released to 5.4, 4.4, 3.4, etc.). (lower than Shadowbringers) Hilariously, even the "Steam data" claiming the game is bleeding subs (while ignoring both the unique spike and natural cyclical nature of subs in every MMO that ever existed) actually shows EW consistently features the highest playerbase to date at each equivalent point along the way. (incorrect)

The part is who are the people saying the game is dead'ish? Oh, right, the negative echo chamber that is living in the past, (ad hominem) can't accept that things change with time, MMO's are no longer designed (or meant) to be your entire life, and trash or doomsay the game every chance they get. (strawman) Meanwhile, actually go log into the game and play, and you see it thriving, people having a blast, and just a ton of good vibes in general. (contradicts the previous sentence)

This entire cope:

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I just hope it can be a jump start point So l can get my friend to play with me. Doing random stuff with my friend in gw2 is fun because content is not locked behind story. I just hope dawntrail will make that right move. That's all l ask