After patch 6.4 we need Golbez redemption arc

[DiaDeem]

Uh...

[Xlantaa]

I mean, it is partially based in FFIV. It was obvious.

[rsncra]

yep he got a redemption arc alright, was obvious it would happen considering it turned out VERY similar to ff4 in the end

[Raiya]

To be fair........

He basically lost his best friend (the foreshadowing strongly suggests was our counterpart in the 13th) during the chaos of Baron Castle and the whole environment made anyone trusting anyone a vulnerability as it was at the time.
Igyorm turns up says Moons Haunted and to go there to end war, him being distraught over his best friends demise and desperately wanting to end the whole war for good agrees.
Durante goes to moon, whacks said moon men and ended up being the unwitting trigger for the flood of darkness (similar to Ardbert) and the whole world ends up ruined on account of the acians jumping the shark at the time.
Igyorm cheeses it into the rift after her crowning moment of idiocy never to be seen again (for him, we later whacked her good with the angry dragon orb and oh boy does this have retrospective karmic irony elements to boot).
Had to sit for 10millenia in a wasteland with limited information and tools about a way to end his worlds hellish fate and could only finally act at all after we whacked Zodiark.
Was primarily acting out of a desperate desire to undo his mistake by any means even if it meant throwing the source under the bus.
Only stood down after being defeated and after Zero showed him the first real light to exist on the 13th in Millenia and being offered a viable tangible alternative and not cryptic promises or just being put down either.
Helped clean up the mess he made and cooperated with the rest of the group which ultimately helps his goal by providing new, detailed information on aetheric balance as well as a link to the light blasted 1st which has a similar but opposing elemental problem to the 13th.

His character arc is consistent, is similar to the OG Golbez he's based on and his reasoning for what he did while misguided is consistent with what information we have now on the voids environment both pre and post flood. It also helps to have his character in reserve if we ever go for a proper Void Expansion (Golbez isn't the only party on the 13th still active there's other powerful voidsent who've carved out their own domains, even the cloud of darkness is still around if the story decides she needs another beatdown in the future) or if Ullunkai and Sylvia return to the 13th for more raid shenanigans or a Eureka style foray into stabilising the 13th.

[DubiousDisk]

Golbez has literally never appeared without being redeemed, his whole thing is that he is a well intentioned extremist.

Pretty much everyone saw this coming the moment he came into the picture.

[ChrysOCE]

You are kidding, right? I don't really care that it was obvious, if you have done FF4. In this game, what did we have? Minimal story, through the patch quests, and a redemption that literally happens off screen but, that's ok, we get to re-watch it through the power of memory. And even then, it's not like it's an arc. It's almost like "hey, we can do this together!" "no!" "i have the power of light" ".... ok"
I love FFXIV. I've loved the story right up to end of EW (and even then, I have issues with the Final Days being a mere inconvenience, rather than an actual cataclysmic event). These patch quests and the resolution has been ridiculous. Why was this our patch content? They could have made this into a whole expansion, with Golbez redemption being the culmination of the 13th shard being saved. Instead we get what we got and, rather than us being inspired by Emet's words, to go see the sights and mysteries of the world, no, it's someone else who is drawn to the New World and seems like we are just gonna go along for the ride, rather than the beginning of a new adventure for us.
Honestly, I'm glad these patch quests are done. Roll on DT and I will never be looking back at any of this story with fondness.

[TaleraRistain]

no, it's someone else who is drawn to the New World and seems like we are just gonna go along for the ride, rather than the beginning of a new adventure for us.

Putting this in spoilers

That doesn't seem to be the case. The very last scene of the patch has Erenville bringing someone to Sharlayan specifically to look for their candidate, "our adventuring friend". That seems to imply they're looking for us.

[ChrysOCE]

Putting this in spoilers

That doesn't seem to be the case. The very last scene of the patch has Erenville bringing someone to Sharlayan specifically to look for their candidate, "our adventuring friend". That seems to imply they're looking for us.

Yea I know. I just... it feels like we are off on someone else's cause. To me, it should have been us taking Emet's words to heart and it's our decision and desire to go see the wider world. Then we get drawn into whatever is happening there.

[TaleraRistain]

Yea I know. I just... it feels like we are off on someone else's cause. To me, it should have been us taking Emet's words to heart and it's our decision and desire to go see the wider world. Then we get drawn into whatever is happening there.

We still can when we hear where it is. It's still our choice to go. This is just our means of getting there. Remember what Estinien said about how the current adventure started.

[ChrysOCE]

We still can when we hear where it is. It's still our choice to go. This is just our means of getting there. Remember what Estinien said about how the current adventure started.

I think we both know that is not going to be the case. Whether or not it's someone who has come to drag us off or we are following Krile or the twins (who were both told to go somewhere warm), I don't believe it will be our choice to go on this adventure (as much as it can be a chioce. I mean, we HAVE to go, but it's WHY we are going). To me, it's different if its from Emets words about how little we know, that inspires us to leave and see the wider world. Rather then someone showing up and picking us to be their adventurer in need. Maybe I'm wrong and 6.55 shows us something different.