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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Uh ... yes? But I don't think that make it mutual exclusive to their connection to the people. Venat in an Azem, and this was her speech:

    "Land that stretch forever. Skies one could drown in. The heart beat of natural, silence yet strong.
    And amidst it all a people. Beacon of light and line. Laughter that warmed my heart like naught else before.
    They are my meaning and my purpose. My love."


    So yeah, it's pretty safe to say for Azem, their connection to the "people" would rank 1st with everything else a pretty distance second. Also don't forget, the capstone of Azem power is the ability to summon ... not beast, not gods or element, but other "people" to their aid, which symbolize the strength of their connection.
    I'm really not sure what you are arguing tbh. All I was saying, was that my preference for would have been that Dawntrail was kicked off by us being inspired to explore the world, from Emet's last words to us, rather than this whole lackluster Golbez story filling out most of the patch and being kind of a nothingburger. Not having someone come to Eorzea and say they need our help and we go because of that, or that it's one of the scions and we either follow them or they follow us. And once we are in Dawntrail, we can meet whoever and help whoever and be drawn into something larger because, yea, we like to help people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    This. People don't seem to understand that the WoL is almost as big of a combat junkie as Zenos. The main difference being that combat isn't the only thing they care about.
    Quote Originally Posted by Katish View Post
    Is the WoL a combat junkie or are they just basically an entity of their world that only knows battle mostly and at that point it's just them being in the right\wrong place at the right\wrong time?
    I think they're not a combat junkie but they're an adventure junkie, and the battles are an inevitable part of whatever they get caught up in during the course of an adventure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrysOCE View Post
    The WoL (ie me, all of you are supporting characters) is a combat junkie, for sure. But, after Endwalker, I want to think on what Emet said and go see what is happening in the world. I don't want someone to come and pick me to help them in their issue. I don't want to follow the Scions, or have them tag along. After 4 expansions, I want Dawntrail to be me deciding to leave Eorzea and be an adventurer again.
    Well, I think it's a mistake to think WoL is you. In fact, unless you're playing a Pen&Paper game, I don't think it's possible for a character to be ... you. Of the 35 years or so of gaming, I think I can recognize only 1 game that you can say the MC is you ... and that's Kenshi. And the cost of that freedom? The game has zero story, and you have to make it up as you go.


    The WoL had made many choices that I wouldn't personally choose, but I don't have an issue with it. The reason is the narrative has developed a fairly consistent background for the WoL to explain their behavior.

    - They are a thrill seeker on par with Zenos.
    - They have an insatiable adventure lust typical of an Azem.
    - And just like the rest of the SCion, the WoL is a hopelessly good person.

    On top of that the WoL's temperance also seem to be of a nosy butterfly, so I don't think you'll get your wish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Well, I think it's a mistake to think WoL is you. In fact, unless you're playing a Pen&Paper game, I don't think it's possible for a character to be ... you. Of the 35 years or so of gaming, I think I can recognize only 1 game that you can say the MC is you ... and that's Kenshi. And the cost of that freedom? The game has zero story, and you have to make it up as you go.


    The WoL had made many choices that I wouldn't personally choose, but I don't have an issue with it. The reason is the narrative has developed a fairly consistent background for the WoL to explain their behavior.

    - They are a thrill seeker on par with Zenos.
    - They have an insatiable adventure lust typical of an Azem.
    - And just like the rest of the SCion, the WoL is a hopelessly good person.

    On top of that the WoL's temperance also seem to be of a nosy butterfly, so I don't think you'll get your wish.
    Well, yes, I don't actually think I am the WoL. Though, clearly, my WoL is the true WoL....
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