Alliance Raid Now iLvl Locked, Why??

[Hasrat]

Unsurprisingly, story takes priority over all, and, maybe just perhaps, devs don't really expect players to be running daily roulettes when the rewards are unnecessary or excessive. Roulettes may be seen as nothing more than an exp and/or tome grind, so why would they expect players to be queuing if they do not need the exp or tomes?

Maybe, long run, this is actually a good change, to maybe manage to curtail some of the overleveling caused by players running the roulette more than necessary.

[Melphina_Dragonfyre]

Maybe, long run, this is actually a good change, to maybe manage to curtail some of the overleveling caused by players running the roulette more than necessary.

If people are running the roulette because they enjoy the content and just wanna run a random dungeon then they're not gonna stop just because of some system change aimed at end game raiders. It may sound weird to some of the people who play the game like it's a second job and probably got sick of seeing the same instance for the thousandth time this year, but there are players who legitimately have fun queuing random instances. If they enjoy doing it then they're gonna keep doing it. Different people play the game for different reasons. If someone is having fun then they're getting their value's worth from the game.

[Iscah]

... since most will be Lv 90 by the time they hit the end of HW.

"Most" sounds unlikely unless they are intensely playing a single job and doing roulettes and side content with it in addition to MSQ. The simple solution which the game is already based around is to spread their EXP across multiple jobs.

If people are running the roulette because they enjoy the content and just wanna run a random dungeon then they're not gonna stop just because of some system change aimed at end game raiders.

If they want to run a random dungeon for entertainment, not rewards, they can just sign up for multiple duties in the duty finder and see what pops.

[Erzaa]

The overleveled people we are talking about would be causing CT raids because they have no other araids unlocked. They were effectively ilvl cheesing.

I have all raids unlocked up to, and including, ShB. I haven't done Endwalker yet but have all jobs at 80+, including multiple 90s. All jobs are geared to ShB tomestone (Cryptlurker) gear.

I frequently ran Alliance roulette with level 90 characters and have all the Endwalker currencies capped, that I can't spend.

Are you suggesting I'm causing CT?

[Erzaa]

What are you doing alliance raid roulette for? Do you want to be overleveled even more?

Because they feel like it? Because they might want to? Maybe to play on a job they're comfortable on that day? Farming Moogle tomes during the event?

Gee, it's almost like people can play the game the way they want to for any number of reasons and shouldn't be punished because of other players' actions.

[Tiramu]

Neah, its a decent solution. They've just made an oversight which shouldnt be difficult to fix. I think SE have made the assumption that if people overlevel the MSQ on one job they will start a new job, which is what most players do. All SE needs to do is to adjust it so the min ilvl caps reduce to the tier below if the next raid isnt unlocked.

[Saraide]

I have all raids unlocked up to, and including, ShB. I haven't done Endwalker yet but have all jobs at 80+, including multiple 90s. All jobs are geared to ShB tomestone (Cryptlurker) gear.

I frequently ran Alliance roulette with level 90 characters and have all the Endwalker currencies capped, that I can't spend.

Are you suggesting I'm causing CT?

I think you missed the part where posters claimed that most new players reached lvl 90 by the end of HW. Are you suggesting everyone plays exactly like you?

Because they feel like it? Because they might want to? Maybe to play on a job they're comfortable on that day? Farming Moogle tomes during the event?

Gee, it's almost like people can play the game the way they want to for any number of reasons and shouldn't be punished because of other players' actions.

Then just queue for the 5 araids you like the most. You're not locked out of just doing the alliance raids themselves.

Or just finish the MSQ and you'll never have this problem again.

[Zaflis]

Itemlevel isn't an issue unless you have trial account, Rinascita (lvl 610) gear is affordable in market board. There is 640 too if you need to boost it even more for some piece.

Apart from that i split the experience i got from MSQ between 3 different jobs to not overlevel it. By endwalker i had to stick to just 1 or the quests would be higher level than my own highest job... That's on a server with "Road to 80" exp boost for new players.

So does the alliance raid now also assume you do all those "optional" questlines? They should really still be optional? Only crystal tower is mandatory.

Edit: Also to why it's affordable, every new player gets 1 million gil when they reach level 30. It was new alt for me on that same server so i didn't get it, but i remember i had several millions from normal play in first few months anyway.

[Erzaa]

I think you missed the part where posters claimed that most new players reached lvl 90 by the end of HW. Are you suggesting everyone plays exactly like you?

Some do. I had my first 90 before finishing SB. Whether few or many is irrelevant. I could just as easily argue that fixing iLVL cheesing was pointless, because the cheesers are the minority and CT is the most common raid because it's the only one that's required.

Then just queue for the 5 araids you like the most. You're not locked out of just doing the alliance raids themselves.

Or just finish the MSQ and you'll never have this problem again.

Uhm, no thank you. I like the randomness of the Alliance Roulette and would like to continue being allowed to use a feature that has been working for me for the last 4 years... Crazy, I know!

And I will finish the MSQ when I'm damned well good and ready to finish it.

I set a goal for myself to unlock all additional dialogue in the MSQ as far back as ARR, Endwalker will come when ShB expansions content is fully complete.

[Erzaa]

Itemlevel isn't an issue unless you have trial account, Rinascita (lvl 610) gear is affordable in market board. There is 640 too if you need to boost it even more for some piece.

Apart from that i split the experience i got from MSQ between 3 different jobs to not overlevel it. By endwalker i had to stick to just 1 or the quests would be higher level than my own highest job... That's on a server with "Road to 80" exp boost for new players.

So does the alliance raid now also assume you do all those "optional" questlines? They should really still be optional? Only crystal tower is mandatory.

The ShB tomestone gear is more than enough to cover any raid up to ShB. No need to spend gil you may or may not have on overpriced gear just to make other crafters/gatherers even richer. Even just crafting said gear would mean spending gil to buy mats that I can't currently gather because they're locked in an entirely different zone.

All they need to do is account for people who are overleveled. I'm not asking them to revert the fix, but they missed us and we're being punished for it. They should account for us.