Will Dawntrail Surprise Us With A Major LGBTQ+ Character In The MSQ

[Astrahime]

this ship is as thin as paper i swear... all they ever did was have coffe biscuits together and be friends... a stage which apparently is skipped if your deep into shipping culture enough

the theme at the end of the series, when it's ryne and gaia together in a section of the Empty that's been restored thanks to the power of primal summoning, beside a giant rainbow crystal, is called "Ami". Which is Latin for love.
Said restoration finishes with flowers after a cutscene that is a shot-for-shot remake from FF8, with a confirmed romantic couple. https://twitter.com/FugaFF14_Strife/...568008194?s=20

I wonder if this means anything.

[Toutatis]

the theme at the end of the series, when it's ryne and gaia together in a section of the Empty that's been restored thanks to the power of primal summoning, beside a giant rainbow crystal, is called "Ami". Which is Latin for love.

Where did you get that from? Google translate is horrible when it comes to Latin.

Verb for love in Latin is “amare”, noun is “amor”. There’s no “ami” whether it’s declensions or conjugations.

Ami, which is used several times in the English version of game (like ami/amie d’Ameliance), is the French word for friend (amicus/amica in Latin). There is the Italian verb amare (same as latin) but it’s at the present tense and second person singular (“tu ami” or “you love”) and the English version of the game does not use Italian.

Edit again: ami is masculine singular, so it applies to the crystal. If it were about both girls, it would be “amies”. It may also simply be a transliteration from Japanese.

Personally I don’t care how people interpret that scene. It could be either way.

[sindriiisgaming]

the theme at the end of the series, when it's ryne and gaia together in a section of the Empty that's been restored thanks to the power of primal summoning, beside a giant rainbow crystal, is called "Ami". Which is Latin for love.
Said restoration finishes with flowers after a cutscene that is a shot-for-shot remake from FF8, with a confirmed romantic couple. https://twitter.com/FugaFF14_Strife/...568008194?s=20

I wonder if this means anything.

its all just a reference to ff8. there is no romantic relationship ever, not even implied. theyre just friends.... god why would the devs introduce mitron just to do that to him... why do the supposed fans of gaia not even respect that mitron was her lover and think shed literally just jump right down rynes throat the minute mirton died.. i just cant even get my head round this....

people keep using this rainbow crystal as some kind proof its LGBTQ! but heres the thing.. its not... the colour of the crystal represents the aetherial aspects infused within eden, the first sineater. inside his body ( eden) id all 6 elemental aspects, there are places in game (matoyas relict, mothercrystal) where we see infused aether and rainbow is what you get. this isnt some LGBTQ moment, this was a perfectly explainable story element. i just hate this ship so much because it its so dissrectful to ryne, gaia, mitro and honestly.. the devs.. whatever age ryne may have been changed to back in shb the nude mods ppl were makingof her were enough to get s.e in very hot water regarding child s.e. so in my books, shes a minor, so is gaia, theyre friends. im sorry?

[TheMightyMollusk]

its all just a reference to ff8. there is no romantic relationship ever, not even implied. theyre just friends.... god why would the devs introduce mitron just to do that to him... why do the supposed fans of gaia not even respect that mitron was her lover and think shed literally just jump right down rynes throat the minute mirton died.. i just cant even get my head round this..

Gaia isn't Lohgrif, though. She explicitly rejects Loghrif's memories when Mitron tries to force them on her. Being a reincarnation doesn't make them the same person, just like Fandaniel isn't Hermes and the Warrior of Light isn't Azem.

[sindriiisgaming]

Gaia isn't Lohgrif, though. She explicitly rejects Loghrif's memories when Mitron tries to force them on her. Being a reincarnation doesn't make them the same person, just like Fandaniel isn't Hermes and the Warrior of Light isn't Azem.

"The warrior of light isn't azem" I feel like this is a fundamental misunderstanding here. While in memory he, logrig and amon do not remember there past lives, they Are still those people. Back in she a short story was published on the lodestone about emet azem and lahabrae, where the wol demands to save indigenous peoples over grapes, in ew this line is quoted by your character in a side quest "id stop a volcano for those grapes" amon rejected his past self by constantly trying to prove to him that meteons answer was correct, but in the aitascope he admits he was allways trying to find the answer his past self couldn't let go of. While logrif/gaia does not embrace her ascian self she Does not discard mitron as her lover and especially not for ryne. During e12s when mitron dies gaia is distraught over it before she regains her memories. She also bids farewell to mitron hoping they'll meet in the next life.

There is just nothing there... I cannot debunk it any further, at this point people are huffing that copium for a ship that is supported by literally having biscuits together and a crystal that's supposed to rainbow coloured.

[TheMightyMollusk]

"The warrior of light isn't azem" I feel like this is a fundamental misunderstanding here. While in memory he, logrig and amon do not remember there past lives, they Are still those people. Back in she a short story was published on the lodestone about emet azem and lahabrae, where the wol demands to save indigenous peoples over grapes, in ew this line is quoted by your character in a side quest "id stop a volcano for those grapes"

Side quest reply options play with the fourth wall all the time. (My favorite is from one of the first unlock quests for the Nier raids where the WoL just straight out says that it doesn't actually matter how they reply.) Calling that proof of anything is a massive stretch, especially given the English localization team's well-known love of slipping jokes and references into dialogue.

amon rejected his past self by constantly trying to prove to him that meteons answer was correct, but in the aitascope he admits he was allways trying to find the answer his past self couldn't let go of.

Hermes' memory of Meteion's answer was wiped at the end of Ktisis Hyperboreia. He didn't remember it until after dying and rejoining the lifestream (where we later see that Emet-Selch and Hythlodaeus also regained their memory of the WoL's visit to Elpis). Amon's rejection of his past self was because he spoke to the resurrected Xande, found out there was nothing after death, and had a mental breakdown.

While logrif/gaia does not embrace her ascian self she Does not discard mitron as her lover and especially not for ryne. During e12s when mitron dies gaia is distraught over it before she regains her memories. She also bids farewell to mitron hoping they'll meet in the next life.

Savage isn't canon. Check the duty description, it's clearly stated to be, in Eden's case, "distorted memories of your recent encounters".

[Sea-Wolf]

its all just a reference to ff8. there is no romantic relationship ever, not even implied. theyre just friends.... god why would the devs introduce mitron just to do that to him... why do the supposed fans of gaia not even respect that mitron was her lover and think shed literally just jump right down rynes throat the minute mirton died.. i just cant even get my head round this....

people keep using this rainbow crystal as some kind proof its LGBTQ! but heres the thing.. its not... the colour of the crystal represents the aetherial aspects infused within eden, the first sineater. inside his body ( eden) id all 6 elemental aspects, there are places in game (matoyas relict, mothercrystal) where we see infused aether and rainbow is what you get. this isnt some LGBTQ moment, this was a perfectly explainable story element. i just hate this ship so much because it its so dissrectful to ryne, gaia, mitro and honestly.. the devs.. whatever age ryne may have been changed to back in shb the nude mods ppl were makingof her were enough to get s.e in very hot water regarding child s.e. so in my books, shes a minor, so is gaia, theyre friends. im sorry?

I think it's pretty obvious Ryne and Gaia are in Love with Each Other

[WeebPolice]

I think it's pretty obvious Ryne and Gaia are in Love with Each Other

Debatable, citizen. I would need to see more proof of this.




Favor the road traveled by few.

[Sea-Wolf]

Debatable, citizen. I would need to see more proof of this.




Favor the road traveled by few.

The Rainbow Crystal says it all

[WeebPolice]

The Rainbow Crystal says it all

Nonsense, citizen. We have no idea if the rainbow is even a symbol for the LGBTQ movement in Eorzea. It could mean something else. Perhaps it's a symbol for war in their culture.




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