Mixed feelings about the Twelve

[Nebelheim]

knowing you you'd want them to be more edgy and broody and willing to punish you harshly. =p

Or they have to be woman that obey orders from men and can't be strong and independent or else they take away from a scene according to him and have to take a back seat when a man is in the scene.

[aveyond-dreams]

Or they have to be woman that obey orders from men and can't be strong and independent or else they take away from a scene according to him and have to take a back seat when a man is in the scene.

I am unsure how you came to draw such a conclusion when my previous suggestions and/or concept threads have given women - including the goddesses of the Twelve, a greater degree of characterization and agency than the current writing does. If there are any caricatures of women being made it is not being done by me. Personally, I found most of the scenes involving Nophica and the jokes surrounding her to be pretty degrading. As well as the constant issues plaguing Y'shtola's writing turning her into a generic "sassy" character and robbing her of any suggestion of emotional growth or vulnerability after we left Rak'tika in Shadowbringers, extending onto Endwalker and beyond.

I highly encourage you to draw your own conclusions and even take a look at my alternate retelling of Myths of the Realm in the following thread. I look forward to hearing your opinion as to which style of writing is ultimately does more in service to character agency and development. Mine in which the goddesses are allowed to have conflicting personalities and goals, or the other in which all are reduced to the same copypasted character in different costumes.

[Nebelheim]

I am unsure how you came to draw such a conclusion when my previous suggestions and/or concept threads have given women - including the goddesses of the Twelve, a greater degree of characterization and agency than the current writing does. If there are any caricatures of women being made it is not being done by me. Personally, I found most of the scenes involving Nophica and the jokes surrounding her to be pretty degrading. As well as the constant issues plaguing Y'shtola's writing turning her into a generic "sassy" character and robbing her of any suggestion of emotional growth or vulnerability after we left Rak'tika in Shadowbringers, extending onto Endwalker and beyond.

I highly encourage you to draw your own conclusions and even take a look at my alternate retelling of Myths of the Realm in the following thread. I look forward to hearing your opinion as to which style of writing is ultimately does more in service to character agency and development. Mine in which the goddesses are allowed to have conflicting personalities and goals, or the other in which all are reduced to the same copypasted character in different costumes.

Based on your various fanfics you write it seems you want dark edgy characters and don't care for strong woman that stand up to men like y'shtola did with magnai. So I have read your various post in the past and the various things you said in them. You have had misogynistic viewpoints in your past fanfic posts while also wanting dark and edgy stories.