Players are already lowering their bar for Downtrail

[Atelier-Bagur]

OK. If the new expansion is going to be about exploration and treasure, why not hint at kind of new mechanic involving those things?? Why is it that Scions are doing the same old-- eating things and asking NPCs if they've noticed something? It just screams same old same old. That's the problem. It's not innovative or fresh at all, even considering it's a beach episode.

The fact that were finally going to explore the New World which is the biggest elephant in the Etheirys room because of how huge the continent is, is more than enough for me to be engaged with the idea.

Obviously its not to you, but Im excited for it. I love this game's world and I want to see it more explored

[Turtledeluxe]

The fact that were finally going to explore the New World which is the biggest elephant in the Etheirys room because of how huge the continent is, is more than enough for me to be engaged with the idea.

Obviously its not to you, but Im excited for it. I love this game's world and I want to see it more explored

Is that because of content already in the game or because of the teaser? Isn't this yet another example of why the game isn't appealing to different types of players? What is the point of hosting huge events and making expensive teasers that don't clearly communicate anything that compelling?

My point being that I started the game sometime pre Endwalker -- so I didn't have the stakes of Endwalker at all. I had the older trailers, all of which clearly communicated interesting ideas and visuals. Maybe they weren't the most original concepts, but they had a XIV spin that felt inspired.

This teaser doesn't put a XIV spin on anything.

[Musashidon]

This teaser doesn't put a XIV spin on anything.

it's a trailer for ff14 about ff14 you literally can't get any closer than that.

[Atelier-Bagur]

Is that because of content already in the game or because of the teaser? Isn't this yet another example of why the game isn't appealing to different types of players? What is the point of hosting huge events and making expensive teasers that don't clearly communicate anything that compelling?

My point being that I started the game sometime pre Endwalker -- so I didn't have the stakes of Endwalker at all. I had the older trailers, all of which clearly communicated interesting ideas and visuals. Maybe they weren't the most original concepts, but they had a XIV spin that felt inspired.

This teaser doesn't put a XIV spin on anything.

I think you're trying to justify your own apathetic opinion of the next expansion to facts; because:

1. How the hell are you believing the teaser lacks anything FFXIV related even though it showed the Scions, the Mamool Ja, a whole new world to explore and sense of upcoming adventure that reminisces the feeling of the ARR intro?

2. The visuals are the South American/Thailand (from what people have told me about Tulioyal) lands and culture showcased in the teaser. Again how the hell did you miss it unless you just didnt care for it. Which is fine. People have tastes, but dont pass it off as if the visuals shown in the teaser were inherently bad. Its literally because your tastes in the concepts of the next expansion is something you just dont give two shits about. Again, thats fine even if your reasons are super weak

And like I already said, I love the world of FFXIV and for the longest time we've known of unexplored distant lands and cultures within the game's lore and the idea that we're finally going out to sea and rediscover them is an enticing idea for an expansion. People been speculating before Dawntrail's announcement that 7.0 was going to be either a Meracydia or a New World expansion and I'm glad 7.0 is leaning on one of these things.

[BRVV]

I love this game's world and I want to see it more explored

I wanted to so a huge city, steampunk style for Garlemald. But just before we got there it was all destroyed. Let's see if i get my Grand-Canyon-Viewpoint style map in DT.

it's a trailer for ff14 about ff14 you literally can't get any closer than that.

Except we haven't seen the trailer yet. The trailer doesn't get released until the JP FanFest. For now, all we're getting is teasers with snippets of the trailer.

Only one of these can be right

[Musashidon]

Only one of these can be right

while it is only part of the full trailer which we both know that person meant, it is the trailer.

but sure we can be snooty to try to make a fake point.

[GTK0HLK]

This thread has certainly shifted..,
and tbh, to much more worth while topics.

Using Cp2077(2.0/PL) as lingo.

ARR, HW, SB all had the feeling of exploring an existing world(while occasionally running into hidden/forget sections of it, where even it's residents don't know exist)
[As if you'd Explore Night City by only driving the streets and occasionally entering an alley or building.]

ShB was like Going to the Badlands or Dogtown. Completely different to the world you know, but the same core concepts exist and react, exploring a world that is In conjuction with what you expect, but different in that you are no one in a unknown landscape.

Whilst EW was literally exploring distant nations with the final sections being stuck in a fully interactive Braindance(some which never left in a trance, jk lol), or to the edge of existence(which is just another form of the unknown known) in Cyberspace.

DT is more akin to the Heard of Frontier, they have civilization, but the chance of large unknown areas holding secrets being much, much larger than that of the Existing worlds.(~Continually Dies Trying to exit the Border of NC~ Prior to 2.0/PL)

The Existing Lived World, The Unknown Known World, The Parallel World, and the Frontier World.

It may not be some people's Cup of Solution.
But finding something unexpected within your known world is much more rattling, than going to a completely alien one, where you know to expect anything.

Nothing wrong with many wanting to find literally new things, or being in a world where nothing but you is new.
But for the current future, expanding into the uncharted yet not alien lands is one that would serve as a good palate cleanser for a good number.

edit: But are they wrong Musa.
We only saw the landscape and colors, what can be assumed, is that many Think Expac Trailer when a clear image of what it entails is shown.

Hence the difference between Teaser and Full Trailer exists.
Just cause one can claim a false point, and lower it by calling snooty.

another can claim strawman and semantics about what is and isn't real VS the intended effect and purpose.

[KitingGenbu]

What if everyone is 'wrong'? I mean I keep seeing people saying, "well we're going to this area and exploring all of these zones etc" which is possible but if you look at EW, it wasn't set to just 'one continent.' Its entirely possible that we just get 3-4 zones on that area and then go somewhere entirely different either by the end etc (which looks likely given how the story has ultimately been going, gotta ultimately get catgirl to her bf on the first by the end of this).

[BRVV]

while it is only part of the full trailer which we both know that person meant, it is the trailer.

but sure we can be snooty to try to make a fake point.

Well you made a snooty fake point first by implying that everything with the scions faces is FFXIV enough.

[Musashidon]

Hence the difference between Teaser and Full Trailer exists.

everything that is in the teaser will be in the full release of the trailer. it's just literally a small part of the trailer.

so yes it is snooty to add nothing to discussion but try to stir up more discorse.

Well you made a snooty fake point first by implying that everything with the scions faces is FFXIV enough.

sure keep trying to stir up fake discorse.