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  1. #3241
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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Taught a full group of sprouts how to do the second boss of Stone Vigil (Hard). Kinda.

    Sprout Healer left after the first wipe and we got a non-sprout AST. Which was fine, because none of them knew how to use the interrupts so I was having to use Low Blow to stun the second room wide attack. I did try explaining but there were mostly just crickets in the background.

    We also wiped on a single pull later(one of the forced ones), since one of the big dragons hurts although it was mostly the AST just not healing even after I holmganged and it was clear I was hanging on with 1 hp. I feel like I probably got quietly blamed for that though.
    I usually just do that fight by myself. As soon as I do the stun on one weapon I'll run to the other and take over that one. No one seems to understand the stun. No one seems to understand they got to attack the adds that are farthest cause you can't attack the ones in your face.

    I do like the last boss because if you just watch body language...you can do it with 0 damage done to you.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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  2. #3242
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Since I've done very few actual roulettes of late(no real reason to run them since I have everything I need weekly after getting the tomestones capped), I've been trying to farm the last gwibber I need, whihc is Seat of Sacrifice, and holy hell are those PF terrible. Even trying to run my own, I tend to have to disband after one or two because very few people can actually consistently perform well enough to clear it. Not to mention the hour to hour and a half it takes for the party to form, and a lot of the time after one run someone leaves if it was a good clean run. And the majority of the time, I don't have the patience to wait around for a refill.
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  3. #3243
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Paladin Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    I usually just do that fight by myself. As soon as I do the stun on one weapon I'll run to the other and take over that one. No one seems to understand the stun. No one seems to understand they got to attack the adds that are farthest cause you can't attack the ones in your face.

    I do like the last boss because if you just watch body language...you can do it with 0 damage done to you.
    Oh well I didn't know everything I guess. I didn't realize the cannons didn't share interrupt timers. And yeah, I tried explaining to them that they need to use the cannons to clear the adds furthest away from them, but that sort of fell on deaf ears.

    And yeah the last boss is really cool for that. I like bosses like that, sort of.
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  4. #3244
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    ChrysOCE's Avatar
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    D'ark Bunny
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    Behemoth
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Since I've done very few actual roulettes of late(no real reason to run them since I have everything I need weekly after getting the tomestones capped), I've been trying to farm the last gwibber I need, whihc is Seat of Sacrifice, and holy hell are those PF terrible. Even trying to run my own, I tend to have to disband after one or two because very few people can actually consistently perform well enough to clear it. Not to mention the hour to hour and a half it takes for the party to form, and a lot of the time after one run someone leaves if it was a good clean run. And the majority of the time, I don't have the patience to wait around for a refill.
    It never fails to amaze me when you say, this is your partner, go to your corner on meteors.... and then you look up and see like 3-4 people dead. Or light parties and one healer stands right behind the boss.... just go to your side!!!
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  5. #3245
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    Denji's Avatar
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Taught a full group of sprouts how to do the second boss of Stone Vigil (Hard). Kinda.

    Sprout Healer left after the first wipe and we got a non-sprout AST. Which was fine, because none of them knew how to use the interrupts so I was having to use Low Blow to stun the second room wide attack. I did try explaining but there were mostly just crickets in the background.

    We also wiped on a single pull later(one of the forced ones), since one of the big dragons hurts although it was mostly the AST just not healing even after I holmganged and it was clear I was hanging on with 1 hp. I feel like I probably got quietly blamed for that though.
    Stone Vigil hard is infuriating because you desperately try to explain things and they being new all just completely ignore you until the first wipe and even after that you try to explain things and then you get to the cannons and it's like... well. time to watch 3 newbies sprint around instead of shooting it.
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  6. #3246
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    Stone Vigil hard is infuriating because you desperately try to explain things and they being new all just completely ignore you until the first wipe and even after that you try to explain things and then you get to the cannons and it's like... well. time to watch 3 newbies sprint around instead of shooting it.
    Even better when they kill themselves by shooting it while it's glowing and reflecting damage.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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  7. #3247
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    Even better when they kill themselves by shooting it while it's glowing and reflecting damage.
    or when they man the cannon they say "idk how to shoot" while also refusing to learn.
    it really bothers me that one can be in a situation where they are allowed to safely fail (see: having a sprout icon when partied with a mentor that you can report if they're being a douche) with little to no downsides but still decide they'd rather just not do it in a sad attempt to try to protect themselves from failure.
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  8. #3248
    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    Stone Vigil hard is infuriating because you desperately try to explain things and they being new all just completely ignore you until the first wipe and even after that you try to explain things and then you get to the cannons and it's like... well. time to watch 3 newbies sprint around instead of shooting it.
    Honestly, I hate the lower level dungeons because I always have to explain something. Even in something like Sunken Temple of Q. I have to try and explain to the 3 non-sprouts that we don't have to pull the first room, while the SGE who stayed behind instead of even trying to drag them to me decides to not heal after I run back, pick up the bats and move on.
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  9. #3249
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    And people wonder why later dungeons dropped puzzles, complexity, or anything but hallways and doors.
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  10. #3250
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    Viz Vale
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    And people wonder why later dungeons dropped puzzles, complexity, or anything but hallways and doors.
    Raids just kept the "stay out of the color you have" which is great because they also have "stay IN the color you have" and also "You need to know this attack will come here if you don't want to get hit". So the WORST puzzles lived on while the fun ones died.
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    Will put you on ignore if you can't form a logical argument but argue nonetheless

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