Patch 6.5/6.55 speculation based on the art work.

[Carin-Eri]

Okay, on looking this up, we definitely aren't, but not in ways we expected! We're falling victim to a pretty commonplace misconception, that FFIV Easy Type (which Zeromus EG's design is from) was just the North American version of IV repackaged for Japan. It wasn't; it has a lot of the NA difficulty nerfs, but also a few more changes for the sake of appealing to younger audiences. That last part is likely why the Zeromus EG design happened in the first place; as I noticed, the original Zeromus design has some real body horror going on, so they probably replaced it so as not to scare the kids.

This Zeromus is just the FFIV Zeromus, no Easy Type elements at all. It's kinda hard to tell right now how much of that original design body horror it retains, though; the stream quality dulls a lot of the detail it may or may not have.

And I genuinely don't think that the Fiends fight is an actual boss fight; not only did they show an awful lot of cutscene for that, more than any boss intro reasonably would, they only showed cutscenes. Including combat shots, too; Raikai noted Y'shtola throwing up a barrier which she only does in cutscenes, but Zero's got a lot of action going on too. My guess, that's what the Scions are doing while we're fighting Zeromus.

Presumably Zero Vs Golbez is a cutscene too. Either that or we have to play AS her again. Which I hope isn't the case!

[SannaR]

Okay, on looking this up, we definitely aren't, but not in ways we expected! We're falling victim to a pretty commonplace misconception, that FFIV Easy Type (which Zeromus EG's design is from) was just the North American version of IV repackaged for Japan. It wasn't; it has a lot of the NA difficulty nerfs, but also a few more changes for the sake of appealing to younger audiences. That last part is likely why the Zeromus EG design happened in the first place; as I noticed, the original Zeromus design has some real body horror going on, so they probably replaced it so as not to scare the kids.

This Zeromus is just the FFIV Zeromus, no Easy Type elements at all. It's kinda hard to tell right now how much of that original design body horror it retains, though; the stream quality dulls a lot of the detail it may or may not have.

And I genuinely don't think that the Fiends fight is an actual boss fight; not only did they show an awful lot of cutscene for that, more than any boss intro reasonably would, they only showed cutscenes. Including combat shots, too; Raikai noted Y'shtola throwing up a barrier which she only does in cutscenes, but Zero's got a lot of action going on too. My guess, that's what the Scions are doing while we're fighting Zeromus.

Well I say solo as the part right before the Antlion fight we have "Golbez" and two other npcs with the WoL. Where for the Antlion fight we have Zero, Y'shtola and tall Varshahn. Both happen in the same area. Oh and I wasn't wrong with that the antlion shows up in pvp. It's one of the three things that can show up in the swirly sand suck spot. I just know a few jp people in the chat were saying EG Zeromus when I watched the PLL at an appropriate time of day and not at 2am. You could be right about the others fighting them while we're busy with something or someone else. Kind of like when we ran after Regula in Azys La.

[CNitsah]

Presumably Zero Vs Golbez is a cutscene too. Either that or we have to play AS her again. Which I hope isn't the case!

One of those "you play someone else" sequence. We did not have one for a while and I did not miss it.

[Carin-Eri]

One of those "you play someone else" sequence. We did not have one for a while and I did not miss it.

Ironically, I think the last one they pushed on us was 6.3's "An Unforeseen Bargain", where we played as Zero. Which is why I don't want to do so again.

And I don't miss them either!

[Jade_Tyrant]

And I genuinely don't think that the Fiends fight is an actual boss fight; not only did they show an awful lot of cutscene for that, more than any boss intro reasonably would, they only showed cutscenes. Including combat shots, too; Raikai noted Y'shtola throwing up a barrier which she only does in cutscenes, but Zero's got a lot of action going on too. My guess, that's what the Scions are doing while we're fighting Zeromus.

You're probably right, but I'll be a little disappointed if that's the case. Mostly because I think a 'refight the Four Fiends all at once' sounds pretty fun.

Also, I personally enjoy the roleplay instances where we get to play as someone else. To some extent I agree that Zero again (given she was the most recent one) would be a bit odd, though.

[ElysiumDragon]

I'm calling Plague Horror and Dark Elf as Lunar Subterrane dungeon bosses, maybe Geryon as the final boss?