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  1. #21
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by AC9Breaker View Post
    Damn someone in this thread saying Stormblood MCH was their favorite? That's quite a take, considering a lot of bad takes in this thread already. HW MCH was the best with how broken it was with cross class skills and ridiculous WF damage. I agree with the opinion someone else had here about using PVP mch style as a way to shake things up MCH next expansion. Either way I think MCH is alright the way it is. Could use some changes but what class couldn't in this game? na'meen?
    Stormblood MCH was my favorite to a point where it clicked 200% with me.

    It had a lot of jank and flaws, but the flavor and the concept was unparalleled.
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  2. #22
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    Tanu Ki
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    Quote Originally Posted by AC9Breaker View Post
    Damn someone in this thread saying Stormblood MCH was their favorite? That's quite a take, considering a lot of bad takes in this thread already. HW MCH was the best with how broken it was with cross class skills and ridiculous WF damage. I agree with the opinion someone else had here about using PVP mch style as a way to shake things up MCH next expansion. Either way I think MCH is alright the way it is. Could use some changes but what class couldn't in this game? na'meen?
    Yeah, I did. Hope you aren't expecting an apology. God forbid I make a bold claim by saying I like a thing because it had an infinitely more involved learning process and could see myself improving in it every time I played, compared to it's current state. But that's a take, I guess.
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    Last edited by Mayhemmer; 09-16-2023 at 09:42 AM.

  3. #23
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    Zakuyia's Avatar
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    Zakuyia Shizyuie
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    Bruh I would welcome some extra bit of damage from machinist like how black mage is stingy or give machinist a rez in the form of defibulators that would be pretty cool.
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  4. #24
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    NobleWinter's Avatar
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    Winter Gem
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zakuyia View Post
    Bruh I would welcome some extra bit of damage from machinist like how black mage is stingy or give machinist a rez in the form of defibulators that would be pretty cool.
    I would be ecstatic if the Defibrillator was part of the Automaton Queen build. So summoning her meant one of her attacks could instead be used to revive a fallen teammate. How cool would that be for her to zoom over to a party member and punch the ground with an electric shock to offer them a revive. Summoning Queen could be a crazy way to chain rez in a pinch.
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  5. #25
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Anything for Queen, but I'd like them for starters to align it on other pets, like SCH for example, where you can actually direct her and use some abilities tied to her deployment. This would make it less of a fire and forget button. If it had branching choices between damage or support, sure, i'll also take it.
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  6. #26
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    Ren Thras
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I didn't like the ammo mechanic - having a chance to proc the next step of a 1-2-3 combo was BS, and would be even more now that we have two gauges to manage, burst windows, several GCD CD abilities, and the current Hypercharge with oGCD reduction mechanic.

    ...but god did I love the old Reload and Quick Reload animations. I 100% wish they used those now for the Reassemble animation...

    EDIT:

    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    The band-aid would be so simple, just let Flamethrower generate heat. In a best case scenario, FT would be able to ignite BioBlaster's dot for more AoE damage.

    With auto-crossbow not even having a recast time reduction like Heat Blast, it honestly seems that they don't care at all about AoE kits, since not just MCH, but many other jobs have janky AoE rotations.
    Now now.

    They gave us Scattergun.

    I don't care if it's a minor potency upgrade to a spamable AOE, I adore hitting that button.

    Agree with FT generating heat, though.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 09-18-2023 at 10:06 AM. Reason: Marked with EDIT

  7. #27
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    Ammo could definitely come back without the old proc system. It could just add raw potency to your next GCD but only be applicable to the standard 1-2-3 buttons. That way we get the animations and keep the fixed rotation. I would definitely welcome an increase the pace of MCH because only hypercharge feels like fast shootout.
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  8. #28
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    Tanu Ki
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    In all honesty, MCH just ain't getting it back. The new melee we're getting, though...? I guess we'll see in a month. An ammunition-like mechanic would be nice, if only so it DOESN'T have yet another meter-based gauge.

    I'm hopeful for this new job(s), but if it's primarily another '1-2-3, get meter, use spender, 1-2-3-, get meter, use spender-' job, I'm going to be pretty deflated.
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  9. #29
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    Ammo could definitely come back without the old proc system. It could just add raw potency to your next GCD but only be applicable to the standard 1-2-3 buttons. That way we get the animations and keep the fixed rotation. I would definitely welcome an increase the pace of MCH because only hypercharge feels like fast shootout.
    Please no. Nothing could be blander. As far as I'm concerned, the fixed rotation can go to hell considering they chose to alienate all the players enjoying the old procs/ammo (while adding a new proc based rphys job at the same time to add insult to injury). But if we want to keep a fixed rotation, then at least make ammo interesting and unlock other things in the rotation. or within the combo itself, because 1-2-3 (not even branching ffs) is literally just a glorified pvp combo button.
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  10. #30
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zakuyia View Post
    Bruh I would welcome some extra bit of damage from machinist like how black mage is stingy or give machinist a rez in the form of defibulators that would be pretty cool.
    Look at RDM and SMN
    Yeaaaah no thanks.

    Rez would be much more fitting on DNC and BRD, actual supports.
    And I'd rather have tools to prevent KO rather than tools to fix someone's else mistake.
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