CBU3 has abandoned us

[Jojoya]

I used to screenshot the sprouts with the new store mount but eventually got tired of it and can't name people here anyway.

How do you convince sprouts with too much spare cash to hold on, for the good of all players, long term?

They don't care and will pay 30€ anyway. They might not be playing near in the future so fun right now is more important than fun all down the road.

Just my thoughts

You don't. The money doesn't really mean anything to them.

It's something they need to learn on their own. They're not going to listen to someone giving advice counter to what they were conditioned to believe on social media and that was reinforced by their friends likewise conditioned.

[Myrany]

There are circumstances where voting with your wallet works.

If enough people with similar issues to you all leave at the same time a game company will notice. What they do about it is up to them. If they do not fix what you feel is wrong with the game it is safe to assume either loosing a few subs costs less than fixing the problem or you just no longer are the target audience of the game going forward.

I strongly suspect SE is focusing on new players atm. It is the perfect time to do so with the 10 year anniversary and the start of a new story arc. Without new blood the game wont survive another 10 years. Also New players stand to spend the most money going forward as they don't already have all the extra stuff a veteran has collected over the years.

In a year that focus could shift. A wise company does not focus ONLY on one group forever.

The other way voting with your wallet works is that if you really are that upset or miserable with the game direction it is simply foolish to keep playing it.

All those staying because of a house or thing x, y or z while complaining constantly about not liking the game anymore I just will never understand. You have your reason for staying, your house (or thing x,y or z). You made your choice. You already know after all this time your gripes with the game are not being listened to. So you can't be upset enough that you will give up the other things. You are just cash cows for SE. You have shown you will not withdraw your funding so why should SE bother catering to you.

As for myself I have enough fun every time I log in that I am not going anywhere. Is the game perfect? Hardly. For myself the point to walk away comes when a game is no longer fun for me personally. When it stops being fun I am out the door.

[Ivtrix]

Nah, i am dead serious. If you don't like the game you can quit but give me your gil before you go.

gimmie gimmie never gets

[OgruMogru]

[AngelCheese77]

They no longer care about any feedback beyond feedback that is extremely trivial and low cost to implement like alliance raid ilvl issues.

In multiple interviews, they are now outright dismissing player concerns or stating outright falsehoods (like DC travel being a JP only issue).

Since CBU3 no longer cares about the game there is no need for players to care about FF14 anymore.

We got a drama llama.

/10 kittens

[SquishyPlushie]

I'm probably going out on a wild limb, but something tells me someone using a new account to post on because their prior accounts were permabanned off the forums isn't going to have nice things to say about the company that actioned them.

SE shouldn't listen to the forums when this sort of thing is ongoing. In fact, they should start by blocking comments coming from an IP that is the location of a perma'd account, or one with matching billing info to one.

[Atelier-Bagur]

There are circumstances where voting with your wallet works.

If enough people with similar issues to you all leave at the same time a game company will notice. What they do about it is up to them. If they do not fix what you feel is wrong with the game it is safe to assume either loosing a few subs costs less than fixing the problem or you just no longer are the target audience of the game going forward.

I strongly suspect SE is focusing on new players atm. It is the perfect time to do so with the 10 year anniversary and the start of a new story arc. Without new blood the game wont survive another 10 years. Also New players stand to spend the most money going forward as they don't already have all the extra stuff a veteran has collected over the years.

In a year that focus could shift. A wise company does not focus ONLY on one group forever.

The other way voting with your wallet works is that if you really are that upset or miserable with the game direction it is simply foolish to keep playing it.

All those staying because of a house or thing x, y or z while complaining constantly about not liking the game anymore I just will never understand. You have your reason for staying, your house (or thing x,y or z). You made your choice. You already know after all this time your gripes with the game are not being listened to. So you can't be upset enough that you will give up the other things. You are just cash cows for SE. You have shown you will not withdraw your funding so why should SE bother catering to you.

As for myself I have enough fun every time I log in that I am not going anywhere. Is the game perfect? Hardly. For myself the point to walk away comes when a game is no longer fun for me personally. When it stops being fun I am out the door.

what boils down to, you play the game when the game is good for you and you stop playing it when the game is giving you more frustration than fun. That threshold differs between player to player and I suppose it isnt fair to fully judge them based off of forum post venting; but most of the time it does come across that way and the simplest solution is to quit wasting your breath and stop giving SE money on a product you dont enjoy anymore. There's no point continuing providing feedback in a state of a game that you feel has stagnated even with your criticisms early on. The best step to want to have business men to start listening to your direction is to stop providing money to them as that is a lot more noticeable than somebody participating in the perpetual echo chamber. It's why 2.0 happened, its because SE realized from the abysmal playerbase that serious change had to happen.

Speaking with your wallet does more good than harm in the long run.

[Rolder50]

I strongly suspect SE is focusing on new players atm. It is the perfect time to do so with the 10 year anniversary and the start of a new story arc. Without new blood the game wont survive another 10 years. Also New players stand to spend the most money going forward as they don't already have all the extra stuff a veteran has collected over the years.

Even if they are focusing only on new players, I'd argue they aren't really even doing a good job of that. The biggest barrier to entry for *retaining* a new player is the massive MSQ that you have to go through in sequential order. No matter how good the story, people are going to get burnt out and quit if they are doing it for dozens of hours.

In my opinion, if they want to retain new players, they need some way to skip parts of the story without putting it behind a paywall.

[Striker44]

Even if they are focusing only on new players, I'd argue they aren't really even doing a good job of that. The biggest barrier to entry for *retaining* a new player is the massive MSQ that you have to go through in sequential order. No matter how good the story, people are going to get burnt out and quit if they are doing it for dozens of hours.

In my opinion, if they want to retain new players, they need some way to skip parts of the story without putting it behind a paywall.

Isn't that what SE has already suggested they're doing for DT?

[Lieri]

Today my 700+ days of subscription streak ended. Its not much compared to most players but to me its big. I started near COVID era where I found this game to be the only reason to get up because at the time I got sick.

Fast forward a few years later, my emotional attachment to the game can only help so far. There is no content. And near the end of expansion like this feels like playing a game thats about to get shut down. I think they really need to cut the "RPG first MMO second" bullcrap. This game is an MMO, won awards for MMOs and as an MMO. MMO is about immersion and progression. The game direction has shifted from MMO to a single player game. Which means it doesnt have an identity. It doesnt stand out at both single player and MMO because it tries to be both.

I know sometimes people say, it has to be RPGMMO because there are a lot of casuals. Well guess what in other MMOs there are also a lot of casual players. Doesnt mean the devs will go out of their way into making their MMO into a single player game.

I am not even big on social ascepts of MMO, I play mostly solo and know like 1-2 people in the game. Yet even for me, this game doesnt feel like an MMO anymore. Most mobile MMOs feel more alive and thats worrying.