PVP Crystalline Conflict do NOT need to be solo queue or full party queue

[Elfidan]

I will rather risk history repeating itself for half a patch so we can see results in this game with this format than to be a stubborn and stagnant doomsayer hoping zero changes are happening.

I'm so sure that calling it crystalline conflict will change the inevitable conclusion that we saw play out in feast.

We can't have good changes if we don't try out things and occasionally have bad ones so no offence but screw your historical evidence and everything it stands for.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana

You can always have your "told you so" moment when it actually is done and implemented in an honest fashion. I cant have mine if I never get the chance.

I don't care to live through hell just so I can claim victory on the fact that it is indeed hot.

If the focus is to have fun and not put an emphasis on winning why is there a huge fuss on premades?

What is fun Irika? Is it fun to play with friends? It can be. Is it fun to strive against insurmountable odds so someone else can have fun at your expense? One persons fun ends where another's begins. Who is to say one is more important than the other?

As to your other comment of pvp being ran by soloists and exp farmers that depends. Exp farming is fine so long as you actually participate. The issue is there is no active policing of the bad behaviors going on. Soloist is actually preferable for many people. None of my friends are into pvp and I don't generally enjoy the pvp community as they tend to be really toxic.(read some of these threads) That in mind do I matter less because I don't have a squad of murder hobos waiting on discord for me to log in?

[lennit]

i understand why you cant group with your friend to some point for the ranking system , unless they make it where, you can only group with friend if you are to verse pre-made group, like party finder vs party finders. but i dont understand way you cant go in to casual as a group , it like your going to get a reward for being the best and coordinated

if you comparing it to wow you had to find your friend to do arenas matches

[Astralrisk]

Game would be unironically better if they implement any form of pre-mades for CC, I've seen so many people beg for the ability to play the ONLY arena game mode with there friends that the number of people it would bring in would be great. Just implement a solo queue separate from group queues or just have good enough matchmaking to not have solo players go up against full stacks. I personally don't have an issue of fighting full pre-made groups, but I know I am a minority with how many people I see talk about how 4 man pre-mades ruin Frontlines. I just think the pros of having the majority of the player base be able to have fun with there friends is more important than the minority of people who just want to pub stomp a random dad who has 12 kids and only has 2 hours of free time a week to pvp.

[Elfidan]

Lennit You could compare it to wow but you don't have to. We already had all of this happen and resolve right here in this game in the previous mode that was replaced with Crystalline conflict. Why should one team get an advantage over the other? Hell, it isn't even fun to play with a group of friends when you're the odd man out in any content. Ninety percent of dungeon groups where a group of friends came in together are miserable and often involve or end in unnecessary toxicity.

[lennit]

Lennit You could compare it to wow but you don't have to. We already had all of this happen and resolve right here in this game in the previous mode that was replaced with Crystalline conflict. Why should one team get an advantage over the other? Hell, it isn't even fun to play with a group of friends when you're the odd man out in any content. Ninety percent of dungeon groups where a group of friends came in together are miserable and often involve or end in unnecessary toxicity.

i don't agree it should be a group of friend verse a pug , i think if you what to play with your friend through a party finder option you should have to verse other players that are doing it the same way to make it fair. and i was not talking about the toxicity of wow , that's the player doing and only the player doing, players can try and do that here if they want to see the inside of ffxiv jail

And i was pointing out why they don't make it optional. pre-made vs pre-made for casual match because there is No way of getting a reward of the top 100 players , it technically a fun match you cant do it with your friends

and that is why i was saying party finder not duty finder

[Valence]

I don't think they can, or the fall off in player engagement doesn't matter enough to bother with it. You see the same problem in MMO pvp over and over again Valence. It's always randoms and new players who are just trying play vs seal team six. It's so reductive that people hide behind "I want to play with my friends" instead of just admitting 'I came to pub stomp'. Imagine the outrage if people received a handicap debuff based on number of players in a preformed party. All of you using voice coms and queue syncing against randoms are sick in the head and spit in the very face of fair competition. You should be ashamed.

That's not what i'm suggesting though? What is this strawman you're building and how does it even relate to what I was saying?

[Elfidan]

That's not what i'm suggesting though? What is this strawman you're building and how does it even relate to what I was saying?

I'm saying that in reality I don't think they can strictly make it premade vs premade because the pool of actual participants for that is too small. I then elaborated that the drop off in participation for such match making would make it pointless anyway. This is opinion but based on experience.

Not all of the post is directed at you just the first part. That's why I didn't quote you.

[lennit]

I'm saying that in reality I don't think they can strictly make it premade vs premade because the pool of actual participants for that is too small. I then elaborated that the drop off in participation for such match making would make it pointless anyway. This is opinion but based on experience.

Not all of the post is directed at you just the first part. That's why I didn't quote you.

i come to the forum to leave suggestions , not to know the answer if it would work or not, i can make that judgement when it's in the game. if i need to be attack every time i post here, i could just click support desk and leave my idea with the gm themselves.

this is a 2year old game for me no matter how many years i miss out on or change's that happen before i got here. i'm not going to go against something i never have seen gone wrong

[Elfidan]

i come to the forum to leave suggestions , not to know the answer if it would work or not, i can make that judgement when it's in the game. if i need to be attack every time i post here, i could just click support desk and leave my idea with the gm themselves.

this is a 2year old game for me no matter how many years i miss out on or change's that happen before i got here. i'm not going to go against something i never have seen gone wrong

It's a forum, forums are for discussion. If your feelings are so fragile you can't deal with opposition perhaps you should avoid forums.
I support dropping suggestions in the box and in all likelihood, it holds as much or more weight as anything posted on the forum.
If you have to experience it to have it matter, then what's the point of anything. That's a single player mentality btw.

[lennit]

It's a forum, forums are for discussion. If your feelings are so fragile you can't deal with opposition perhaps you should avoid forums.
I support dropping suggestions in the box and in all likelihood, it holds as much or more weight as anything posted on the forum.
If you have to experience it to have it matter, then what's the point of anything. That's a single player mentality btw.

dont reply to me anymore ,, i dont need your opinion