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    The point about the graphics overhaul makes me think back to a question asked more than once on these forums over the years. People wanted graphical updates or QoL and were asked if they would be content if the game didn't get as much new content while that was being worked on. I think we have our answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    The point about the graphics overhaul makes me think back to a question asked more than once on these forums over the years. People wanted graphical updates or QoL and were asked if they would be content if the game didn't get as much new content while that was being worked on. I think we have our answer.
    And people said in those threads that if they did that people would throw a fit. Course people also said that they would be totally fine if the devs went and spent time on said things. Now I don't know if those who said they'd be fine with the drought are the same ones who are complaining now or if they're different ones. Course there is no pleasing some as even when we get a lot of QoL people complain about it until they run into something that makes them go "Oh damn they finally did X". Stormblood also had a lot of QoL and got crapped on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    The point about the graphics overhaul makes me think back to a question asked more than once on these forums over the years. People wanted graphical updates or QoL and were asked if they would be content if the game didn't get as much new content while that was being worked on. I think we have our answer.
    True, but I doubt that having all these resources poured into QoL and Graphics prevents them from the simple task of designing long retention content with Variant/Relic/Island/Eureka Orthos. Many people here have provided multiple solutions for them, with some being simple fixes such as better rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    The point about the graphics overhaul makes me think back to a question asked more than once on these forums over the years. People wanted graphical updates or QoL and were asked if they would be content if the game didn't get as much new content while that was being worked on. I think we have our answer.
    Not quite. If Yoshida announced tomorrow they could completely overhaul the graphics to make the game look like Black Desert or that we could have a much more robust character creator but it would cost us a patch of content, you'd probably see much less of a vitriolic response. Endwalker spent a significant amount of time overhauling content the vast majority of us will never engage with. Which meant we possibly lost content without any direct benefit. And I say possibly because we don't actually know whether the whole Trust system and dungeon overhaul truly impacted EW's development. After all, would Island Sanctuary suddenly not be a sweatshop simulator if those aforementioned overhauls didn't happen?

    Not to mention, QoL features shouldn't impact content longevity. It isn't exactly hard to toss in some meaningful rewards so Criterion isn't dead on arrival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Not quite. If Yoshida announced tomorrow they could completely overhaul the graphics to make the game look like Black Desert or that we could have a much more robust character creator but it would cost us a patch of content, you'd probably see much less of a vitriolic response.
    'We will not be updating the storage space for Glamour Dresser any further, full stop'

    booo, says the playerbase, quite rightly

    'We will not be updating the storage space for Glamour Dresser any further, full stop, because we have plans to create a Glamour Catalogue, that will function as a permanent unlock system for gear appearances. Just put a piece of gear in the Dresser and it will be saved to your Catalogue, forever. However this system will unfortunately take time to implement, and as such, there will not be any updates for storage space or plate count for the entire 7.x patch series. By doing this, we hope to have the revamped system ready to launch alongside 8.0'

    well it kinda sucks but hey if it makes Glamour storage woes be a thing of the past it's worth it, says the playerbase


    Losing stuff without a good justification, or losing stuff without any 'here is something else in its place' give+take, is what causes the vitriol. Of course, the issue is, each player perceives each content as 'zero sum' in certain situations. For example, losing one dungeon per patch is a negative to some, because the addition of Ultimate content doesn't 'replace' that dungeon, they don't do Ultimate so it might as well not exist to them. To that player, all that happened is that they lost one dungeon per patch. Or worse, that 'the hardcore players took the devtime from me and the content I enjoy, to feed the content they demanded'
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