Dancer feels great to play

[CidHeiral]

This is why it is vital to have a variety of wildly different jobs with varying levels of complexity in the game. I find Dancer to be the most excruciatingly boring job in the entire game, but for tons of people it's their favorite job. By the same token lots of people hate the jobs I like the most.

All of that is totally fine, and in fact healthy for the game, because people can play whatever suits their taste, which is an option that goes out the window when every job is dumbed down and homogenized. Hopefully the positive feedback from wacky PvP job design has reinforced this lesson to the devs.

[NightHour]

What if Technical Step gets a 7.0 upgrade that adds a damage component to each step? Maybe it wouldn't feel like that. But yeah, on random duty finder parties not having a countdown is bad not just for DNC, but everyone else. Not that it matters a lot in the end because on those groups people rarely play tightly around the 2min meta.

I don't really mind Starfall dance being like it is, but why on earth Devilment doesn't turn into Starfall Dance is beyond me. Improv is more useful nowadays, because at least you can use the small regen, but I still think Improv when situationally used for its full effect should be much stronger than what currently is - even a full channeled shield is puny, and to be honest, the shield healer in your party is probably offset that by a huge margin because they'll cast GCD shields during that downtime anyway. Improv could probably have the shield replaced by mitigation - 1% for every channeled tick.

Dancers will still flash improv, it will never be full channeled.

The potency loss from the DPS abilities you could have used instead...

I think I would prefer Tillana to be removed from the being exclusively in the TS window and moved into an oGCD with a 1 min CD that gave 50 Espirit. That way your odd minute Flourish window would have a little more meat to it. It would also benefit TS window because getting low procs of Espirit during your 2 min is legitimately so painful. Sometimes you can get tons of Saber Dances in TS, and sometimes only 1 or 2. It really sucks to be on the receiving end of that, especially since Saber Dance is so important to your 2 min, so I would like to see some sort of adjustment to that.

Closed Position being oGCD is also needed. It would make playing DNC at a higher level even more fun. Right now DP optimization is very hard to do and only really viable during downtime transitions which aren't present in a lot of Savage fights.

Closed Position is already oGCD....

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Closed_Position

[Mayhemmer]

Dancer is currently my favorite physranged. It was Bard, but DNC feels a bit less funky to me when it comes to it's 2-minute stuff, and MCH feels bad to play personally whenever my ping decides to have even the smallest of hiccups.

My biggest gripe off the top of my head is that I wish Improvisation wasn't a channel, and instead just gave the regen and full shield instantly. I never have a reason to prolong it for the shield.

[Raikai]

Dancers will still flash improv, it will never be full channeled.

The potency loss from the DPS abilities you could have used instead...





Closed Position is already oGCD....

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Closed_Position

I think they might mean about not having a recast time, as in, functioning exactly like the PVP version, which is something I agree, and might even add an interesting layer of optimization. I never truly tried it, but got from others that it's a very minuscule gain to do that with how it currently is (sans if your DP is dead, of course).

[Oizen]

I've got very few complaints about dancer, the only thing I kinda wish is you could use dance partner on yourself to get the added benefits of other skills in anything solo, it be fine if this was a damage loss in any team content.

Favorite phys range by far tho