LuckyBancho data shows that FF14 is in decline

[Jojoya]

True. But such a decline like in EW was never observed.


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Yet it probably should have been expected considering the main story arc that has existed since 2.0 was concluded in 6.0 instead of being continued.

With respect to the achievement graph, we still need confirmation about what collection date(s) LB used for the 2nd QTR numbers. That would have a big effect on the number of players collecting new achievement completions because of when the patch dates landed.

What will people say next month when he posts the 3rd quarter numbers if the trend shifts back in the other direction and the bar is mostly red again?

It really is amazing how consistently Square Enix wil shoot themselves in the foot and then stare blankly, wondering how it all happened. Case in point, FFXVI didn't sell enough to offset their previous losses (Avengers and Forspoken). Almost like releasing it as a PS5 exclusive meant drastically limiting their sale potential, especially when a massive portion of FFXIV players who might be interested are on PS4 or PC. They're doing it again with Rebirth. So I'll expect to read another "SE is disappointed Rebirth didn't reach sales expectations" a few months later.

Tin foil hat theory: Sony is still interested in purchasing SE but doesn't like the current price. They're giving SE bad advice about releasing PS exclusives so sales of new titles are lower because of the lack of additional platforms. That worries investors so the stock price falls. Lower stock price means lower price for Sony when they reappear to make the attempt to purchase SE as a counter Microsoft's recent acquisitions.

I know how much people like to mock with "small indie company" but when you're comparing them against the giants like Sony and Microsoft, it's a lot closer to the truth for SE than some think.

[Larirawiel]

Yet it probably should have been expected considering the main story arc that has existed since 2.0 was concluded in 6.0 instead of being continued.

I doubt, that the story arc is the reason why people are quitting the game. The youtuber Zepla has made some videos why EW is in that state.




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[Jojoya]

Tell us then what the point of threads like this is. Who is it trying to convince and about what?

The OP doesn't want to say why he made this post.

Says a lot about the nature of its purpose when they plainly state they refuse to say.

I doubt, that the story arc is the reason why people are quitting the game. The youtuber Zepla has made some videos why EW is in that state.




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I've watched some of those videos. I've also read the many arguments and disagreements that her first video on the topic generated because everyone in the player base has their own take on what affects them. I've also seen some players bring up points that she didn't make.

The funny thing is that her own reason for temporarily quitting was simply burn out and she stressed that at the start of that first video. Could it be that many other players are also simply burned out at last but they don't recognize it such and so are trying to pass it off as other things?

Some mention a lack of content and yet Endwalker introduced just as much content as Shadowbringers if you break all of the new additions down.

Some mention a lack of grinds and yet there are a large number of grinds to choose from that most haven't touched.

Some talk about a lack of rewards and yet where has content noticeably deviated the rewards system from what it had been in past expansions? Could the problem be that SE made it easier to get gear from Savage since that's the only content I can think of that did deviate from the past?

[sindriiisgaming]

The OP doesn't want to say why he made this post.

Says a lot about the nature of its purpose when they plainly state they refuse to say.

question to relevance? otherwise just comes off as ad hominem

The funny thing is that her own reason for temporarily quitting was simply burn out and she stressed that at the start of that first video. Could it be that many other players are also simply burned out at last but they don't recognize it such and so are trying to pass it off as other things?

burned out from having nothing to do? thats the strangest burn out ive ever heard of

[ForteNightshade]

Tin foil hat theory: Sony is still interested in purchasing SE but doesn't like the current price. They're giving SE bad advice about releasing PS exclusives so sales of new titles are lower because of the lack of additional platforms. That worries investors so the stock price falls. Lower stock price means lower price for Sony when they reappear to make the attempt to purchase SE as a counter Microsoft's recent acquisitions.

I know how much people like to mock with "small indie company" but when you're comparing them against the giants like Sony and Microsoft, it's a lot closer to the truth for SE than some think.

Even for a tin foil theory, I'm inclined to agree. Not that Square Enix has ever needed help making terrible decisions but their buddy relationship with Sony does make you wonder who is helping who here. Not to mention, Sony has to be a little more desperate now that Microsoft is buying out the likes of Activision.

^please explain How endwalker released as much content as ShB let alone stormblood

To be fair, it terms of quantity it's roughly similar depending how you fudge the numbers. Quality, on the other hand...

Endwalker's biggest issue isn't the amount of content being released per se but rather it's poor execution. Stuff like Island Sanctuary and Criterion would be fine, if they were completely barebones or lacking any rewards, respectively.