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    Player Noumenon's Avatar
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    Noumenon Noumenon
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    I think you missed 99.99% of the point I made.
    What did I miss? You said EX trials are fine because you farm them to get mounts, so they don't need to be grindier. Alliance raids are fine because you literally try to get every single piece of glamour for them, which necessitates a huge ton of grinding.

    I daresay the amount of people who grind alliance raids to get every single piece of glamour are rarer than people who complete Savage tiers on content.

    He finds the rewards lame, you don't. He chases ilvl and BiS gear, you chase alliance raid glamour. Both of these are rewards. And you can squabble with him about that, about which is more important, while the huge majority of the rest of the playerbase and potential playerbase (those players who have quit FF14 because of how lackluster and dull its gameplay is) are yearning for meaningful gameplay.

    While you two are arguing about what is worth grinding for, everyone else is terribly bored about the the game itself.
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    Last edited by Noumenon; 09-16-2023 at 09:23 AM.

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    Raven2014's Avatar
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    Ribald Hagane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    What did I miss?
    The context, for one. Watch his vid again, then read my original post.

    Also, you're putting word in my mouth, I literally said NONE of what you're claiming I said.

    Also noted that I was very carefully said his point is NOT invalid, rather it's coming from a very narrowed/limited perspective.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 09-16-2023 at 09:27 AM.

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    Ogru Magnataraxia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Noumenon View Post
    I daresay the amount of people who grind alliance raids to get every single piece of glamour are rarer than people who complete Savage tiers on content.
    I do both of these things. I like reasons to do content. I haven't touched criterion because the rewards are garbage.
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    Last edited by OgruMogru; 09-16-2023 at 09:30 AM.