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  1. #51
    Player Daddyslittlevampire's Avatar
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    to be honest I'd rather them make one after Final Fantasy 10 or 12 the sphere system and license point system with no jobs, and with a full open world, or do one like final fantasy 7 with no jobs but only material melding for ability and combat. FF dEVS CANT DO JOBS RIGHT... so id rather them use a system from an older ff that had no jobs with it. Which would be far easier, they could just add an ability set every patch or 2 patchs and that can change what "jobs" we play like
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Its a troll account trying to impersonate Renathras. Just ignore it.
    Goddamnit. I thought the handle's resemblance was a coincidence (think of how many plays on Anonymous/Anonymoose/Anonymouse we've had over the years) until looking at the actual character name. >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    But he often forgets the moogle part.
    I wish I could be so fortunate.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    I skimmed it, but "reimagining" a 10 year old MMO into a FF16 Prequel is just such a far fetched idea there is not much I could do with it.

    An amusing "what if" scenerio though. I realize I don't have to be in this thread, so appreciate the effort to give something to think about.

    Edit: Just noticed he wrote some lore for the jobs. Will check that out later for the entertainment value.
    Exactly this.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 09-15-2023 at 10:34 AM.

  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyslittlevampire View Post
    to be honest I'd rather them make one after Final Fantasy 10 or 12 the sphere system and license point system with no jobs, and with a full open world, or do one like final fantasy 7 with no jobs but only material melding for ability and combat. FF dEVS CANT DO JOBS RIGHT... so id rather them use a system from an older ff that had no jobs with it. Which would be far easier, they could just add an ability set every patch or 2 patchs and that can change what "jobs" we play like
    Being a ("BLATANTLY") big fan of FFX, Id love to see the Sphere System Again. However, every character had a "Job" so to speak.
    Rikku being Thief & Alchemist, Khimari was Dragoon & Blue mage, Lulu was Black Mage, Wakka Ranged DPS, Yuna Summoner and White mage, Auron...I guess you could say Warrior / Dark Knight, Knight...etc. Not sure how to exactly classify him and Titus. But I guess Titus was just faster so he could hit faster Enemies. While Auron was the Heavy Hitter who could Armor Break.

    They all technically had jobs, until you get further into the game and you get Key Spheres which then allow unfettered Inclusivity and further multiclassing.
    I think games should always have Jobs & Roles. It makes the characters stand out and cause more strategy. Instead of just giving everybody access to do just anything and everything. I think thats kind of boring and..idk...lazy. I do believe in structure.
    But like later in the game you could allow vast multiclassing for like Savage Endgame battle content. Im all for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threneras View Post
    Leave your toxicity OUT of the thread. People just want to DISCUSS about FF16 within FF14 but you're now starting a witch hunt against me for NO REASON.
    Take a chill pill. This is next level unhinged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Your game content is in fact in direct violation of the UN Charter of Human Rights
    You and Ren both need a chill pill. It's a random fun idea and you're making it sound like it's a terrorist attack. Yikes.
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    If there's anything that I like from aveyond's thread, it's these sort of fanmade written concepts (I still remember their old written concept "Sins of Meracydia" long time ago.)

    I wish they make more of these. They're IMHO VERY entertaining to read in same way as reading people theory-crafting job new mechanic/rotations.
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    ZephyrMenodora's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    Take a chill pill. This is next level unhinged.
    I’d like to recommend buying the Threneras account the hat. It would really take it to the next level.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    Valisthea is just dirt. There's no entertainment capital, no luscious fantasy environments. There's dirt and there's some palace interiors seen only in cutscenes. They tried really hard to make a non-FF game with no good cities to explore. So it wasn't just non-FF combat and no playable party, but also a commitment to building a world that doesn't beckon an extended visit. It's the land of dirt, bricks and fields of nothing.
    It's a consequence of following FFXIV's approach to zone design. The Witcher 3 should have been what inspired FFXVI as far as I'm concerned - that game has plenty of intrigue, branching quests, a solid cast of characters and a big game world to explore. Plus the cities are genuinely quite big. You can spend hours in Novigrad exploring and tackling quests. You're only actually in the cities in FFXVI for a short time and only whilst they're about to be destroyed.

    I didn't hate FFXVI's cast of characters and think they're some of the better male character designs in the series - rivaled only by FFXII and Tactics Ogre. Yet I think FFXVI's cast would have been far better served being treated to a story heavier in political intrigue and exploration.
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    That was the biggest shame with XVI's world, IMO... it has all these cities but you get to see so very little of them. They're at best background set pieces.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's a consequence of following FFXIV's approach to zone design. The Witcher 3 should have been what inspired FFXVI as far as I'm concerned - that game has plenty of intrigue, branching quests, a solid cast of characters and a big game world to explore. Plus the cities are genuinely quite big. You can spend hours in Novigrad exploring and tackling quests. You're only actually in the cities in FFXVI for a short time and only whilst they're about to be destroyed.

    I didn't hate FFXVI's cast of characters and think they're some of the better male character designs in the series - rivaled only by FFXII and Tactics Ogre. Yet I think FFXVI's cast would have been far better served being treated to a story heavier in political intrigue and exploration.
    Yup, agreed.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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    The fact that 16's cities were relegated to corridor dungeons with pretty much no interaction, in a story about warring nations and intrigue, baffles me. Exploring these cities, investigating different people, talking to interesting NPCs, shopping, and expanding on city life should have been a priority for a game with this story.

    I'd take that over "mostly empty world and a village" any day.
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