Arthars: FFXIV should take a few hints from Dragonflight

[Darkobra]

Man, I wish I had your free time for like, a week.

[R041]

This one's super old, 2 months is like a decade in online time. He already made a couple new videos that should be posted here instead.

Man, you all just take the bait every time. lol

[Midare]

Dragonflight has more replayable content than Endwalker.

Suddenly, daily, meaningless chores are considered "replayability" nowadays?

Grinding Mythic+ is boring, but at least it's more meaningful than 14.

It really isn't. It's just another pointless status symbol that realistically, most people don't care about.

Dragonflight has the best gearing system in any MMO. Every piece of content gives useful gear.

Yeah, because turns out the xpac will only have two patches. If this were any other past expac, that gear would be useless in the blink of an eye (that by their standards can take from 6 months to a year+).

World proggers and many week 1 proggers don't even play the game past week 1 of Savage. The more you play the more you understand that. Some of them just go back to playing WoW classic after week 1.

They got what they wanted, and they can move on. Why is that a bad thing?

They don't care about retaining players for more than one or two expansions. They need to start think about player retention.

Exactly. That's why Yoshi P has said several times people should take a break and come back when they feel like it. But somehow this just won't get through the skulls of many.

I'd definitely like to see an equivalent to World of Warcraft's trading post

Why do you want to be chained to a game so bad by FOMO??

I honestly find this mind boggling.

You find there's not much to do, then for the love of C'thulu go and play something else. And before someone starts with the whole "B-but mah house!" If you don't understand how an MMO works and that every MMO has a period of draught in between xpacs (And boy do I know that since I was playing WoW during the Siege of Orgrimar debacle), then why did you involve yourself in a system which you knew had specific requirements?

Either stop treating an MMO as a game with no xpacs, and use your brain to not get involved in a completely optional thing that it's keeping you around when you don't want to, or just take the advice and play something else. And in both cases, be responsible for your own decisions.

[NekiUno]

Suddenly, daily, meaningless chores are considered "replayability" nowadays?



It really isn't. It's just another pointless status symbol that realistically, most people don't care about.



Yeah, because turns out the xpac will only have two patches. If this were any other past expac, that gear would be useless in the blink of an eye (that by their standards can take from 6 months to a year+).



They got what they wanted, and they can move on. Why is that a bad thing?



Exactly. That's why Yoshi P has said several times people should take a break and come back when they feel like it. But somehow this just won't get through the skulls of many.



Why do you want to be chained to a game so bad by FOMO??

I honestly find this mind boggling.

You find there's not much to do, then for the love of C'thulu go and play something else. And before someone starts with the whole "B-but mah house!" If you don't understand how an MMO works and that every MMO has a period of draught in between xpacs (And boy do I know that since I was playing WoW during the Siege of Orgrimar debacle), then why did you involve yourself in a system which you knew had specific requirements?

Either stop treating an MMO as a game with no xpacs, and use your brain to not get involved in a completely optional thing that it's keeping you around when you don't want to, or just take the advice and play something else. And in both cases, be responsible for your own decisions.

1000% this. You don't have to be married to this game. If you did everything you wanted to do, just play something else and return when they have new things. In that way, you dont get burned out from it (in fact, I have not been log-in that much lately while almost done with P5R).

[TaleraRistain]

It's almost like people talk about the video game they play and also share videos about it

no way

I love how only the FFXIV community has an issue with someone posting a video criticizing the game, while other game communities are perfectly fine with it

As says the good old meme, #GCBTW

A thread about a specific video and putting their own takes on it to open up discussion is one thing. We have an entire first page about content creators and it's mostly just re-posted videos. It's not unreasonable to want to come to the XIV forums and have more on the first page than numerous threads pointing to content creator videos.

[FenyxRising]

Not criticizing, just curious about it.

I am a very inquisitive person who likes to know the reasons why.

As I said in the other thread, it's because Arthars, MrHappy and Zepla are very knowledgeable about the game. They are all veterans and Arthars plays multiple MMOs. Their takes are actually more informed than the average person on the forums, I mean the average person on the forums think black mage can't slidecast and that everyone in the top 100 in PvP is a hacker and wintrader.

I would rather listen to a streamer opinion than the opinions from people who think black mage can't slidecast thank you very much.

And yes, I know the streamers are biased because they all play a lot and clear Ultimates, but really go look at job discussion in the role subforums and it's just pepega takes all over the place because they don't know how to play well so ???????

[Midare]

I would rather listen to a streamer opinion than the opinions from people who think black mage can't slidecast thank you very much.

Here's a wild idea.

Why not make your own opinions?

Again, if you're bored, then take a break, I swear it's ok. And if you worry about your house, then tough luck, shouldn't have got one if you actually understood how the periods in between xpacs work.

It's simple: Don't want to stay, then don't.

Want to stay? Then quit yer whining and accept the consequences of your decisions.

[FenyxRising]

Here's a wild idea.

Why not make your own opinions?

Again, if you're bored, then take a break, I swear it's ok. And if you worry about your house, then tough luck, shouldn't have got one if you actually understood how the periods in between xpacs work.

It's simple: Don't want to stay, then don't.

Want to stay? Then quit yer whining and accept the consequences of your decisions.

Toxic positivity in action !

[ZephyrMenodora]

Here's a wild idea.

Why not make your own opinions?

Again, if you're bored, then take a break, I swear it's ok. And if you worry about your house, then tough luck, shouldn't have got one if you actually understood how the periods in between xpacs work.

It's simple: Don't want to stay, then don't.

Want to stay? Then quit yer whining and accept the consequences of your decisions.

I wasn't going to post in this thread as I don't want to encourage a forum of only reacting to content creator vidoes, but I will say this person has made their own opinions on a lot of occasions, and started a lot of discussions about a ton of topics. So despite occasionally being a little peeved with them, I need to be fair there lol.

[NekiUno]

As I said in the other thread, it's because Arthars, MrHappy and Zepla are very knowledgeable about the game. They are all veterans and Arthars plays multiple MMOs. Their takes are actually more informed than the average person on the forums, I mean the average person on the forums think black mage can't slidecast and that everyone in the top 100 in PvP is a hacker and wintrader.

I would rather listen to a streamer opinion than the opinions from people who think black mage can't slidecast thank you very much.

And yes, I know the streamers are biased because they all play a lot and clear Ultimates, but really go look at job discussion in the role subforums and it's just pepega takes all over the place because they don't know how to play well so ???????

Thank you for that response.

For this next part, I want to say "I am sorry" to all of the streamers for this next comment but I have to real here.

However, I don't think listening at a streamer for opinions and advice is the best way to go in my humble opinion. You are your own judge when it comes down to opinions or advice and going for somebody who is only there for clicks, views and money is not the best avenue, they might have some good opinions or advice but sometimes they do that for generate more views for their channel.

I got nothing but respect for those who does that because they are willing to put their face out there (never for me) but looking for advice and opinion from them, Nah. Besides there are so many other great places for opinions (Reddit, Discord and others).