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    Fawkes Macleod
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    $12 for undyeable ARR dungeon gear.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    $12 for undyeable ARR dungeon gear.
    It'd be insulting if it wasn't so laughable.

    This is peak jumping the shark.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    It'd be insulting if it wasn't so laughable.

    This is peak jumping the shark.
    I agree. Square Enix really needs to do better than this. Iceheart's Attire should have included her long hair and a special animation with it.

    Anyone who buys this gear is a chump.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Whlie I agree with the basic concept of "Some people will pay if they find it worth it, other's wont...store not going anywhere" - I'm more troubled by the lack of effort of this release. It just feels more predatory than some dramatic new mount that probably took enough dev time to at least justify being in the mog shop.

    $12 for what this release is just feels like a bad trend, and something I'd want to discourage. I'm not someone who is 100% adverse to cash shops either. But if it feels like gouging (in particular players who may not realize how close they can create this outfit entirely for free in game)...well, I don't want to see that.
    I disagree, mostly. I want to see more character costumes released, even the ones like this that are 90% available in the game. The model exists and the work has already been done to adapt the model for other races, so why not give players access to it if they want it?

    I want them to put more of these up, not necessarily expecting people to buy them, but still making them available for those that are after that very specific piece or want it to be non-class-locked. I don't care about cash shop stuff being "high effort" or "low effort", so long as it is priced high or low accordingly.

    That said, I agree with you on this one being overpriced. It (and the other things I'm wishing for) should be at the same price point as the ARR Scion sets. Still, they have put it at the newer standard NPC price point and the marketing team is probably not up on the intricacies of why the oldest sets are priced differently.

    On the subject of players who don't realise you can recreate something like it in-game... how much of the population is that? It just seems natural to me to look around every part of the game for what glamours I can get, and these are not exactly obscure. The gloves and boots come from multiple sources at level 15 and are one of the first really nice in-game glamours you get access to, and the coat can be found on the marketboard. I immediately recognised that Ysayle was wearing reused player gear, just like every other character at that phase in the life of the game.

    Do people really have that little awareness of common glamour items while also caring about glamour enough to pay for it? Honest question; it's just outside of how I've always approached the game.

    (And is this why people keep repeating "healers get nothing but white robes" and "there's no good dancer gear"?)

    Edit: not a direct dig at the post above which appeared while I was writing this.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 09-15-2023 at 09:29 AM.