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    Player FenyxRising's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    I don't have many old top 100 rewards (in fact, just one, because Feast didnt exactly keep me involved gameplay wise to continue), but I hold the opposite view. Share the mounts I say, provided some effort is put toward it, much like ultimates, since we're into ultimates comparisons. Old feast rewards demanded effort yes, but also demanded to meet some time limitations criteria, and a lower amount of available spots to seize.
    Ultimates also require time ? So why the double standard ? Hmm ?

    If they re-release it, it has to be t100 AND Crystal, it's that simple. Crystal is actually very easy to reach some seasons while in other seasons t100 ends at plat. Can you think of any other way to give the rewards that actually indicate skill at the same level of Feast t100 ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    I ain't about to tell you my main, tell me where to go in FF14 where you can mount and I'll take a screenshot if you're not happy with this.





    " Someone achieved something that I can't achieve, but that doesn't take skill ! "

    Explain again why you deserve previous t100 rewards ?
    anybody can sit there and spend time climbing the ranks by eventually getting that lucky streak and climbing out of gold,plat or diamond.. thats not skill dude thats you winning the RNG drop lol
    on the otherhand i don't want t100 rewards when they are already reskinning and putting previous feast rewards on the series pass, they are just calling it something different after changing it slightly lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    Ultimates also require time ? So why the double standard ? Hmm ?

    If they re-release it, it has to be t100 AND Crystal, it's that simple. Crystal is actually very easy to reach some seasons while in other seasons t100 ends at plat. Can you think of any other way to give the rewards that actually indicate skill at the same level of Feast t100 ?
    I'm not sure why you're coming confrontational. There is no double standard as I merely pointed that your analogy with ultimates is fallacious since ultimates have no time limit, and no player pool limit. The only thing you need is to put time/effort (and skill?) into them, which was not the case with Feast. You need to input time, effort, and skill into it yes, but you also needed to do it within a restricted timeframe, and with a limited amount of available spots, which is not a constraint in ultimates at all.

    If they re-release it with that model, you remove the timeframe constraint, but keep the limited pool of players. I'm not saying this is especially bad or good, just pointing out how the comparison with ultimates can come flat.
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  4. #54
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    Accepting the reasoning that wintraders/cheaters existed and got top100 in the past, would mean SE failed their job to moderate/oversee the seasons properly. So it cant be that, guys. Everything was perfect.

    (Especially the one time they managed to actually remove the guy from top10 after 100s of reports, but GMs still sent him the top100 rewards, which he is still wearing to this day. Real PvP chad)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Towa-Musa View Post
    anybody can sit there and spend time climbing the ranks by eventually getting that lucky streak and climbing out of gold,plat or diamond.. thats not skill dude thats you winning the RNG drop lol
    on the otherhand i don't want t100 rewards when they are already reskinning and putting previous feast rewards on the series pass, they are just calling it something different after changing it slightly lol
    " anybody can sit there and grind ultimate and eventually clear it "
    " anybody can get into harvard by grinding SAT prep and test and eventually get lucky on SAT "
    " anybody can become a billionaire by getting that lucky startup idea "

    Oh what's that I sense ? It's copium.

    Where is your t100 reward ? Hmm ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    ...you know, either you do it without realizing or maybe this is your plan all along, but saying

    is the exact kind of behaviour us other t100 players don't wish to be associated with. I am not sure what your agenda is at this point, but wishing for t100 rewards to never be rereleased is with 100% certainty not your endgame. Maybe you troll intentionally, maybe you have a sad life and this is how you handle depression. Who knows. Regardless...

    Your behaviour is obnoxious and an outlier among t100 players and candidates. While I can't speak for others, I can speak for myself and at least assume for many others - we do not associate with your behaviour nor your stance on those rewards, especially on the "why" of it.
    Tell me exactly why people who want to put in no effort and soothe their own fragile egos by saying that t100 is just a grind deserves the rewards exactly ?

    These people don't want to put in the work to make themselves better players. And the worst part is they will try to make themselves feel better by saying " no ! that t100 player is a wintrader ! no ! that one used a cosmetic mod so she must have cheated everything ! no ! that t100 player just grinded for thousands of hours he has no life ! "

    Why do these players deserve anything exactly ? Hmm ?

    And isn't it funny that these players want to make it available through Wolf Collars, something that takes zero effort because you can just AFK in Frontline (which many of them probably do) and get it eventually, but they think that is " effort " when it requires zero skill. They just want to AFK Frontlines and get t100 reward, no thanks.
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    Last edited by FenyxRising; 09-13-2023 at 05:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FenyxRising View Post
    " anybody can sit there and grind ultimate and eventually clear it "
    " anybody can get into harvard by grinding SAT prep and test and eventually get lucky on SAT "
    " anybody can become a billionaire by getting that lucky startup idea "

    Oh what's that I sense ? It's copium.

    Where is your t100 reward ? Hmm ?
    ...you know, either you do it without realizing or maybe this is your plan all along, but saying
    Oh what's that I sense ? It's Copium.

    Where is your t100 reward ? Hmm ?
    is the exact kind of behaviour us other t100 players don't wish to be associated with. I am not sure what your agenda is at this point, but wishing for t100 rewards to never be rereleased is with 100% certainty not your endgame. Maybe you troll intentionally, maybe you have a sad life and this is how you handle depression. Who knows. Regardless...

    Your behaviour is obnoxious and an outlier among t100 players and candidates. While I can't speak for others, I can speak for myself and at least assume for many others - we do not associate with your behaviour nor your stance on those rewards, especially on the "why" of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    Well it would certainly be a grindfest no doubt... but that's what it is, it would just be a grindfest. An excessive one at that.
    Actually, l think this will be a better solution than the feast's wolf collar way. 99 collars for an old feast item Or an augmented hellhound. Just like you can buy a mount With 99 totems from extreme trial. With that, There is no time gating and still demands a lot of effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    Actually, l think this will be a better solution than the feast's wolf collar way. 99 collars for an old feast item Or an augmented hellhound. Just like you can buy a mount With 99 totems from extreme trial. With that, There is no time gating and still demands a lot of effort.
    I mean look, I get your point, but I don't agree on specifically 99/100 wolf collars as the mark to reach. A 100 wolf collars is a LOT of grinding, much more than 99 mount totems in terms of time investment, the latter even having the chance of skipping the need for 99 totems altogether. There is no such circumvention in PvP and it would make no sense to have that either.

    Seriously, 100 wolf collars is a LOT more than anyone might be actively willing to grind for. At most someone who just happens to PvP alot will EVENTUALLY reach that, but I have my doubts people would actively grind this much - in fact I expect a lot more will complain over such an absurd grind that would put Eureka to shame and expect heavy nerfs of the grind requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastwall View Post
    Actually, l think this will be a better solution than the feast's wolf collar way. 99 collars for an old feast item Or an augmented hellhound. Just like you can buy a mount With 99 totems from extreme trial. With that, There is no time gating and still demands a lot of effort.
    to be fair vying for a spot in the top 100 is more akin to savage or more likely ultimate (considering i once had OT going well into 20+ min....it was glorious) so im not sure if turning it into a complete grind would be beneficial considering when you look at the state of FL especially during the moogly events, i completely share your sentiment on time exclusive rewards but i also respect the time and effort it takes for an individual to make it there and i think it wont help the mode or the player to not have a reasonable means to incentivize improvement and so i think itd be appropriate for the rewards to reflect that. i think the comm crystals is a good start but should definitely be rewarding each rank tier
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    Last edited by RyanCousland; 09-13-2023 at 05:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim View Post
    I mean look, I get your point, but I don't agree on specifically 99/100 wolf collars as the mark to reach. A 100 wolf collars is a LOT of grinding, much more than 99 mount totems in terms of time investment, the latter even having the chance of skipping the need for 99 totems altogether. There is no such circumvention in PvP and it would make no sense to have that either.

    Seriously, 100 wolf collars is a LOT more than anyone might be actively willing to grind for. At most someone who just happens to PvP alot will EVENTUALLY reach that, but I have my doubts people would actively grind this much - in fact I expect a lot more will complain over such an absurd grind that would put Eureka to shame and expect heavy nerfs of the grind requirement.
    honestly i dont think it would be that difficult or time consuming considering the crystal to wolf collar conversion is fairly quick and if i had to hazard a guess would probably take less than a month, but regardless people would complain as provided by certain threads having an issue with the BP, now mount drops in pvp theres an interesting idea or being rewarded a mount or minion for each rank theres probably some flaws with both but all in all the comm crystals is a good start
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