Glamouring w/ retainers creates a PROFIT INSENTIVE to have a BAD GLAMOUR SYSTEM +FIX

[Jahk]

There's nothing special about blue gear. Half of it is tomestone gear or easily acquired tokens, so we effectively already have a system for you to safely discard and reclaim it, plus you can easily try it on at any point from the relevant shops. It's not worth farming unless you specifically need a piece.

The precious stuff is from alliance raids (blue) and endgame dungeons (green) that don't have any non-RNG way to acquire specific items.

Yeah you are right that is what I'm suggesting they target by saying "just do blues" there is some items that farming twice like eureka armour that is out of the question and some rng stuff from dungeons and savage raids that is kind of a big ask to farm again when you already obtained it. But yeah you could exclude tome gear. But what I'm is to not discard high-end items due to insufficient capacity so the glamour system doesn't feel clunky and rely on third party tools especially since xbox launch is coming. Instead of bandaid fixes like salvagers lets see some stitches like a properly integrated system.

[Jahk]

irl hoarders have internally justified their pathology too

Excellent trolling 10/10. You get your internet points for the day on to the next post. XD

[Jahk]

I bet you would not use 1/10th of that. Keep the pieces you like the most and put them in the glamour dresser. Weapons and glamours from old extremes, savages and deep dungeons are easy to get and a lot of the old content is soloable or can be done with just a few people (there’s even copies of old extreme weapons on the MB). The only thing RNG are the ARR but I am sure you already know there are many pieces you wouldn’t use.

You are right about a lot of blues being unnecessary. But what you are saying but it's just minimalizing the issue with the end game system and core gameplay. I'm displaying the weak part of the game and how they might approach fixing it on a smaller scale than what they might have originally designed years ago when they said they couldn't fix it. I want the system to meet the standards in the industry of mmo genre and endgame horizontal progression systems. Ultimately it will effect replayability and player retention making the endwalker problem with content worse. This is something they might be able to implement fairly quickly and effectively.

[Jahk]

not sure about nier things, but the calamity salvagers allow you to get previous gear you have received and tossed for your job.

if they dont have it, I do not see why they could not also add other blue gear you may have received.

That would be nice to have but doesn't fix help sort of but doesn't fix the core problem of not being able to use the glamour system effectively without third party tools. Also, doesn't allow for different specs on shared armour for highend content. But in the meantime would be nice! ty for the reply

[Jahk]

Indeed, I think this is the reason they said they wouldn't do it in the past. Don't get me wrong, I would love a proper catalogue system for glamour. But there are over 23,000 items that can be put in the glamour dresser - including all armour, accessories, weapons and tools. There are ways to rationalise the list somewhat, like one necklace unlocking the idential appearances for the other roles, but it's still going to be a way longer list than the 800 cap per player on the glamour dresser.

If they can figure out a way to do it though it would be lovely. We can always dream.

The dream is alive and well! I'm suggesting they downscale their previous efforts to just a portion of items in the game. It will be years before we get dawntrail hd textures on arr gear for instance. Hell they might even have the system pretty much made! Just include the hard to achieve items and let us sort out the rest until they get a real fix!

[ICountFrom0]

If you wanted a flag for every piece of gear, then you're asking for a glamour catalogue of some sort which they said they were like 90% done at one point but couldn't put it in due to memory constraints.

That's what WoW said about the void chest before they invested in a product from a third party studio that worked like a dream.

Honestly, if we got a bottomless void chest, as a third tier of glam, (Tier 1, glam cabinet, saves ALL data; Tier 2 amour, saves only existence of items; Tier 3, 'void chest', retains only that you had it, requires being given a resource to "craft" the item so you can use it in the glam chest (probably crystals and a glam prism.).) I'd be one of those crazy people who would try to feed it every single item in the game.

There's two possible implementations:

1. You had it, you keep it. This is the one that will not work. This is the one WoW went with. It checks the box the instant you have it. Folks could just claim a rare item off the marketboard, pass it around, and utterly tank the value as everybody now could just pull it out of the void chest. Prices would tank. Crafters would panic. Lets say no.
2. Desynth extension. In order to retain the pattern of the item, you have to take the original and desynth it. Either the original move, or a new one of the same nature. Again, two possibilities.
2a. Attach to current desynth. Take the item, break it down into crystals, and one of them just happens to have the pattern of the original on it. Entire possible quest about somebody researching crystals from desnyth sources and realizing part of the original item is still in there, and it can be reconstructed, at least in part, from the crystals it was broken into. Add a glam prism and the quest ends with you projecting the image of something you broke down for the quest, onto another item. Void chest goes into the inn room. This could still have a catstrophic effect on the market, first a spike as people rush to buy things, and then break them down, and then a crash as the crafting materials from everything being broken down clog the market. In the long term the rarest of the rare materials used to make the rarest glam items end up slightly less valuable, as some of them are recovered in the desnyth process. Given how rare submarine and airship drop glam items are, or rare treasure dungeon drops are, this might be for the best.
2b. New form of desynth. You break it down and imprint the image into a clear prism. The prism is then mounted into the projector and with a glam prism added, the image is burned onto an item, consuming the glam prism, but not the clear prism. Either you have to do this at the chest, and you never actually hold the items outside of the quest, or it's assumed that you just dump them into a bag that is in your key items, like your wallet full of thousands of tomestones. At no time will it take up invintory anywhere, or produce more items in the game. Since it's a 1 for one and absolute destruction the market won't twitch at all. Market will treat it the same as people buying it and putting it into the glam dresser forever. Possible small short spike as fanatics buy things they always wanted but didn't have room for, but the weekly fashion show makes bigger waves each week.

But that's just the raw mechanics, lets dream a little.

Lets pretend there's an entire department that could be tasked to work on this. What would the PERFECT result be? Lets not talk of raw lists, and maybe a horrible sort system. What if when you put the item in, the item referred to it's underlaying form. There's entire sets that are just recolours and restyles of the same item. What if this system could understand this. You put in 12 versions of the same item, and you get a tree system. The item in each of it's natural colours and patterns, with and without class limitations in some cases, the ones that are dyable, the ones that WILL BE two layer dyable. What if completely new items could be unlocked this way? Put in enough forms of a particular style of armor, and unlock dyable on other versions of it. Turn some of the regular dyable ones into two tone dyable. Maybe even finally pry class restrictions off of some items. Or force them to work even when species would be in the way. This would be the place to hide or unhide the bun ears so they don't clip on helmets, or they DO clip through if you want that. Do the same with your tail. Why limit us to visor up or visor down? All of these are technically possible. And heck, company crest, give it a checkbox. Then we project all of this across to the glam dresser, put it into the plate, and save the settings. Then have that attach to the portrait system, and stop giving us errors and overwriting and erroring all the time.

Let us DREAM BIG.

A chest, that not just contains every item, but a catalog of them, arranged by styles, in trees and branches, that slowly fills in and upgrades as you feed it items, that eventually lets you put anything, onto anybody that you just happen to be right now. That integrates not just with glam, but the dye system, storing the dye pigment items, glam crystals, and dyes themselves to apply as needed to items, making everything just work. Everything, even the instant portrait system.

[Kacho_Nacho]

Digital hoarding is pathological behavior and your weird framing of this as some kind of sideways attempt at a cash grab is insane. Get a grip.

So is habitual trolling. Yet, here we are.

Excellent trolling 10/10. You get your internet points for the day on to the next post. XD

Nah. He's predictable and unoriginal. I'd rate the trolling attempt a 5/10.

He doesn't get any internet points but does receive a consolation prize of a Stuffed Alpha.

[Jahk]

So is habitual trolling. Yet, here we are.



Nah. He's predictable and unoriginal. I'd rate the trolling attempt a 5/10.

He doesn't get any internet points but does receive a consolation prize of a Stuffed Alpha.

LOL stuffed alpha. You are def right on the scoring haha

[Jahk]

Let us DREAM BIG.

A chest, that not just contains every item, but a catalog of them, arranged by styles, in trees and branches, that slowly fills in and upgrades as you feed it items, that eventually lets you put anything, onto anybody that you just happen to be right now. That integrates not just with glam, but the dye system, storing the dye pigment items, glam crystals, and dyes themselves to apply as needed to items, making everything just work. Everything, even the instant portrait system.

OMG what a response. YES lets DREAM BIG! Honestly even a little bit of this would be amazing ty!

[Arzalis]

Yeah, the devs will never do a major overhaul of any inventory system because they directly profit from it being broken. Any other statement they say as to why they won't do it is just an excuse at this point.

Same thing with housing. It keeps people paying subscriptions, so they won't ever change it.

I just really don't believe anything else at this point considering these have been issues for years now.